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Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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This sounds like a great outcome, and I support legalization for basically these reasons. More revenue for state governments, less violence, less law-enforcement time wasted on drug offences, and less crowding of prisons with non-violent drug offenders are all good things. But surely there have been downsides, too, even if they're not the ones that fear-mongerers predicted. Can anyone in Colorado speak to what those…

I'm not in Colorado but I saw one of the downsides the other day which is the manufacture of items like candy bars with multiple serving sizes of THC in the one bar. People aren't paying much attention to the serving sizes and there appears to be no restrictions in place yet on how much can be in a given food item. I'm in favor of legalization but there may need to be some more restrictions in place on how much THC could be included in any one item.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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I worry about what will happen when the next GOP President takes office. Will there be a sudden federal crackdown? If that happens then I think it is inevitable that the US will devolve into a tyranny --just as Plato said, all democracies ultimately do.

I think it's pretty easy to argue that this is a states rights issue and should be left to the states. Nothing they could do would stop the momentum that we have in Colorado.

Not to mention that'd you'd be putting tens of thousands of people out of a job if you tried to "crack down" on one of the fastest growing industries in the country (where it's legal). Job creators.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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I worry about what will happen when the next GOP President takes office. Will there be a sudden federal crackdown? If that happens then I think it is inevitable that the US will devolve into a tyranny --just as Plato said, all democracies ultimately do.

Could a new GOP president retroactively charge dispensary customers with illegal possession?

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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It is really hard to see people we care about struggle with addiction.

But WHAT they are addicted is not the problem; it's their broken brain that needs fixing. Spending $1.5 trillion trying to stem the supply of a substance is about as stupid as making all negative social-interactions illegal (everything MUST be awesome!) so depressed people won't get sad.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Curious, have we seen similar data in Washington/Seattle -- another place where it was legalized?

Here in Seattle, things are moving slowly. The first stores haven't even opened up yet.

Yep. The first store is scheduled to open next Tuesday http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023970923_potlicense...

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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I can guarantee you this: the person you know is definitely better off being depressed than they would being put in jail.

I would argue better off with medical treatment than put in jail.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

#38
post #8

This sounds like a great outcome, and I support legalization for basically these reasons. More revenue for state governments, less violence, less law-enforcement time wasted on drug offences, and less crowding of prisons with non-violent drug offenders are all good things. But surely there have been downsides, too, even if they're not the ones that fear-mongerers predicted. Can anyone in Colorado speak to what those…

I'm not in Colorado but I saw one of the downsides the other day which is the manufacture of items like candy bars with multiple serving sizes of THC in the one bar. People aren't paying much attention to the serving sizes and there appears to be no restrictions in place yet on how much can be in a given food item. I'm in favor of legalization but there may need to be some more restrictions in place on how much THC c…

This is true. It takes responsibility on the users part and possibly more education on the sellers part. But certainly the same is true with alcohol, caffeine, etc. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/07/01/caf...

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The linked data shows 19 murders in the first five months of 2013, 11 murders in the same period in 2014. First, this is very noisy data to make any predictions from. (I guess it's a good thing to have so few murders that it's hard to make generalizations.) March 2014 alone had 5 murders compared to three last year. Second, this isn't a 52.9% drop, even if you exclude May, which makes the drop from 17 to 9. It's a 47…

Agreed. I'm pro decriminalization and/or legalization, but a 52% drop in the murder rate due to the legalization of marijuana doesn't even pass the laugh test let alone the kind of analysis people are proposing here.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

#40
post #8

This sounds like a great outcome, and I support legalization for basically these reasons. More revenue for state governments, less violence, less law-enforcement time wasted on drug offences, and less crowding of prisons with non-violent drug offenders are all good things. But surely there have been downsides, too, even if they're not the ones that fear-mongerers predicted. Can anyone in Colorado speak to what those…

I'm not in Colorado but I saw one of the downsides the other day which is the manufacture of items like candy bars with multiple serving sizes of THC in the one bar. People aren't paying much attention to the serving sizes and there appears to be no restrictions in place yet on how much can be in a given food item. I'm in favor of legalization but there may need to be some more restrictions in place on how much THC c…

But on the plus side, you can't overdose on THC (like alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc). I will note that you can still do stupid things that endanger your life.
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