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Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

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Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

The second point included this:

According to government data, the Denver city- and county-wide murder rate has dropped 52.9% since recreational marijuana use was legalized in January. This is compared to the same period last year, a time frame encompassing Jan. 1 through April 30.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

On the one hand, it was a stretch to frame the benefit as a "drop in crime". On the other hand, the secondary benefits flowing from the drop were worth touting, namely the first-order cost and time savings of processing arrests, running through the court system and incarceration.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The linked data shows 19 murders in the first five months of 2013, 11 murders in the same period in 2014.

First, this is very noisy data to make any predictions from. (I guess it's a good thing to have so few murders that it's hard to make generalizations.) March 2014 alone had 5 murders compared to three last year.

Second, this isn't a 52.9% drop, even if you exclude May, which makes the drop from 17 to 9. It's a 47.1% drop.

This is a very low quality article.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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I worry about what will happen when the next GOP President takes office. Will there be a sudden federal crackdown? If that happens then I think it is inevitable that the US will devolve into a tyranny --just as Plato said, all democracies ultimately do.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

> According to government data, the Denver city- and > county-wide murder rate has dropped 52.9% since recreational > marijuana use was legalized in January. This is compared > to the same period last year, a time frame encompassing Jan. 1 > through April 30.

Their math is wrong. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7977655

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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post #10

The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

> According to government data, the Denver city- and county-wide murder rate has dropped 52.9% since recreational marijuana use was legalized in January. This is compared to the same period last year, a time frame encompassing Jan. 1 through April 30. This was the second paragraph of the crime section.

Click through the link provided to see the raw data. Murder figure looks a little cherry picked. It went from 17 to 9. It was a very cold winter on top of that. Temperature is highly corralled with crime.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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post #10

The second point seems like it is a stretch. Of course, crime rate of illegal marijuana dropped when it was legalized. What I'd really like to see if related crime has dropped or increased - such as DUI, Theft, Assault, etc. --Edit-- Thanks all for pointing out the piece I skimmed over :) ...However I am still very curious to smaller offenses and misdemeanors. It will be years before we see good statistics, but those…

> According to government data, the Denver city- and county-wide murder rate has dropped 52.9% since recreational marijuana use was legalized in January. This is compared to the same period last year, a time frame encompassing Jan. 1 through April 30. This was the second paragraph of the crime section.

According to the Denver city data, there were 19 murders in the Denver city area through May last year, and 11 this year. That's better, but implying that to be a statistically significant phenomenon related to marijuana legalization seems intellectually dishonest. Especially when the overall crime numbers for more common crimes don't seem to show any consistent patterns.

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/20...

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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>Drugs are a person by person issue. Now you might say, yeah, if it wasn't x substance, it'd be y.

Alcohol addiction comes to mind as another substitute that is depressing to watch or be the victim of. Does anybody know if marijuana side effects tend to induce violence or impaired decision making as compared to alcohol?

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