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Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by FireBeyond »

vfclists wrote: post #36
vfclists wrote: post #16

Loads of self-congratulating tripe. Microsoft why don't you simply provide free OS upgrades or fixes for the millions of XP computers out there? They are not going anywhere soon. Next thing we know your lawyers and lobbyists are going to come up with some legislative wheeze and you will be running the biggest botnet in the world. You created the problem so fix it yourself.

Wholly predictable downvoting by anonymously cowardly Microsoft brown-nosers.

Downvoted you. And Apple should be providing free updates to people still using 10.1 Puma.

- signed, owner of an iMac, two rMBPs, two iPhone 5Ss, two iPad Airs and an Apple TV (no Microsoft brown-nose here).

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by kordless »

nathanb wrote: post #21

So let me get this straight...Microsoft took down a free provider of dynamic DNS services because people have used those services to distribute and control malware? Where is the due process? Where is the oversight in this? All I'm seeing is vigilanteism.

I'll tack on the fact that Microsoft wrote the piece of crap software that the malware installs itself onto as well. Something smells awful about this whole thing.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by JacobEdelman »

cwyers wrote: post #33
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Court-authorized vigilantism.

By definition , if it's court-authorized, it's not vigilantism.

If a court legalizes Batman then its court authorized, but he's still not a publicly controlled entity and those still a vigilante.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by kordless »

vfclists wrote: post #78
TallGuyShort wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine. I downvoted you, and it's no longer anonymous. I downvoted you because both of your comments were filled with passionate garbage rather than any well-reasoned thought. I'd be willing to bet other downvoters were not simply cowardly Microsoft brown-nosers.

Which ever way you cut it technically speaking Microsoft runs the biggest botnet because they have control all the computers running Windows upgrade, and if they can't shut them down, they might as well fix them. Whether you like it or not for better or worse a botnet is an economic resource whose value is not lost on Microsoft and sooner or later they are going to come up with a wheeze to exploit them.

You are missing the point. He said why he downvoted you and you replied with a general rationalization on why he should agree with you, when that's entirely NOT the point. You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar. We probably all agree with you in some fashion, just not the way you put it.

And, just in case YOU can't figure it out, the blaming statements you are making are due to the use of 'you' in your comment.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

andylei wrote: post #70
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not clear who determines what "sufficient steps" would be, however. That could range from 'No-IP did nothing at all' to 'they tried and we weren't impressed'. The MS claim that "free dynamic dns is frequently exploited by cybercriminals" seems like hand-waving, to me. It's also used legitimately by millions of people who have home routers which came with support for No-IP baked into firmware...

> It's not clear who determines what "sufficient steps" would be its perfectly clear. the courts.

Well, no, it isn't perfectly clear from the article - are the courts in a position to independently evaluate No-IP's efforts, or did they trust Microsoft's legal team regarding their insufficiency?

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by regd005 »

cwyers wrote: post #57
nav1 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because Windows XP is well over 10 years old. You can't possibly expect them to support it forever just because some organisations can't be bothered to upgrade.

"Software doesn't wear out or breakdown like a physical good" Well, uh, then why does Microsoft need to do anything, if it's still as good as they day it was first sold?

> Well, uh, then why does Microsoft need to do anything, if it's still as good as they day it was first sold?

It is, it's just that it was broken the day it was first sold.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by higherpurpose »

nostromo wrote: post #26

According to Reuters, Microsoft is only sending traffic from computers that are infected with malware to Microsoft instead of No-IP. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/30/us-cybercrime-micro... That may still make people uncomfortable, but it seems much less egregious than Microsoft taking control of No-IP's domains, which is what this press release implies. Edit: the reuters article is in error here, not the Micr…

Microsoft has been doing more and more of this stuff lately, and it does start to worry me quite a bit. The last time they worried me was when "Microsoft shut down a million-strong Tor botnet, by uninstalling Tor from the computers".

I don't want Microsoft to have that kind of power, let alone use it. Worse yet, they make it sound like it's some kind of PR win for them. "Microsoft the hero, takes down evil network". But they usually try to hide how they did it. Very few articles mentioned they were uninstalling Tor from the computers the last time around. Most were just churning Microsoft's press release and the hero narrative.

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