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Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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I've often wondered why we can't replace alcohol with a less damaging recreational drug. We could take a tranqilizer like valium, make a dilute solution of it, add flavoring or whatever it takes to give it alcohol's 'kick' and end up with an acceptable substitute. This isn't to say that valium is 'safe' but it's far less toxic to the body than alcohol.

Soma.

Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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I've pretty much resolved myself to slowly drinking myself to death, I'm pretty sure I'd have killed myself due to boredom or stress otherwise. Hopefully maybe getting out of my current field (devops) and going back into school (have a CS degree to finish) will help a bit.

lol @ going to college so you can stop drinking. Only the engineering department... :-)

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I drink way too much. I've accepted this. What stops me from drinking way too much? Not much, because I'm able to rationalize my drinking with the many beneficial effects touted. There's a lot of information about how drinking a bit is helpful for heart disease and how it basically reduces mortality across the board. More information is needed about how drinking is HARMFUL beyond cirrhosis and the short term effects…

You are not the same person while drunk. If you think that the person you are while sober is a better person, you have a perfectly valid reason for not drinking. I’ll just leave you with this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/9-youtube-videos-that-prove-anyo... Not so much to prove that you can do it, but more for the change that anyone can see. You could hardly tell that it’s the same person in the first videos as the la…

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Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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I drink way too much. I've accepted this. What stops me from drinking way too much? Not much, because I'm able to rationalize my drinking with the many beneficial effects touted. There's a lot of information about how drinking a bit is helpful for heart disease and how it basically reduces mortality across the board. More information is needed about how drinking is HARMFUL beyond cirrhosis and the short term effects…

My father drank way too much throughout his adult life and now he has what is effectively dementia, please reduce your consumption of alcohol, the physical impact of alcohol abuse does not compare to the impact that it will have on your brain. My father can't remember what happened a few minutes ago and he will die alone, because of alcoholism. Please don't underestimate the impact that alcohol will have on your ment…

Hey thanks for this man. Yes Korsakoff's is something I've worried about, and the symptoms are terrifying. However, the cause of Korsakoff's syndrome is a vitamin deficiency, and it's easily avoided by an informed alcoholic who maintains a decent diet.

In this case I feel like a hopeless addict trying to rationalize his addiction in any way possible, but people who want to drink REALLY want to drink, and they will find any rationalization available. There needs to be unassailable reasons telling them that they shouldn't, in order for them to be effective.

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Good reminder I think that we should never pressure anyone to drink. Whether for health, family, religious, personal, or any other reasons, there's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing not to drink alcohol. I enjoy a drink now and then, but I get quite upset when people pressure others to drink.

I go through that quite a bit lol because I've made the conscious decision not to drink ever (I don't care to spend the money on it nor do I care for the taste). But my vice is drinking soda heh... darn sugar!

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Does anyone else find it strange that the definitions of binge and heavy drinking vary so much between the men and women groups? I would think that only body weight would be the heavy influence on this. Is USA Today just being sexist?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but assuming you're not... But first, 5 drinks in 2-3 hrs for men vs. 4 drinks in 2-3 hrs for women isn't that different. Second, women on average weigh less, so that contributes to the difference as you mentioned. And third, there are other ways alcohol affects men and women differently. Edit: Just saw the 15 drinks/week for men vs. 8 drinks/week for women which is a larger di…

>if you're being sarcastic

what's "sarcastic"?

>there are other ways alcohol affects men and women differently.

sources please?

:)

Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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I'm not sure this is all that surprising. Turn it around: what do we expect to be the causes for those adults between age 20 and 64 who die? I really should read up on the relevant actuarial facts, but isn't it the case that by and large those from 20 to, say, 50 plus or minus are fairly healthy?

Especially when there's a certain bias

If person died from diabetes, but drank, this goes into the "alcohol deaths" count, even if the person would have suffered from it without the alcohol.

Same thing for smoking. Yes, there are people who die of lung cancer without smoking or being exposed to specific carcinogens.

And of course everybody dies, but if the person has a heart attack at 80 and drank it is likely it will be considered an "alcohol related death"

Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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While we are at it, can we list some other addictions that we use to cope with life. Me personally, it's gambling, pornography, sulking alone, facebooking acquaintances to see how they're doing better than me or worse, checking sports score and living vicariously through the lives of professional athletes on and off the field, checking TechCrunch/Hack News and doing the same with tech billionaires, making up lists and goals alone or with other people that will never come to fruition due to excessive wishful thinking and ambition to overcompensate but fun to preoccupy my mind for the time being. Window-shopping online and offline for the perfect couch, jewelry, fragrance or other consumer goods that is marketed to me. Reading self-help books, attending wellness workshops, "social intelligence" workshops to help me with my awkwardness, tech-meetup's to mingle. Wasting money at pubs, lounges and clubs hanging out with friends by shallow association of work, school, social network where nothing of importance is said and egos are stroked and reciprocated.

Going home alone. Or accompanying a date back home but feeling alone. Or sleeping int the same bed, wondering how I got here and still feeling alone. But I'm just doing what I'm told to find someone, don't be picky, "you're not getting younger." Forging intimate moments like taking a trip to Montreal in July, go visit a botanical garden or go skydiving like what I'm told by Hallmark and merchants of the USA, I feel nothing but my CC swiped to the max. Keeping an overpriced apartment in downtown like a dumb bird nest-building for the sole purpose of mating and trying to fit in.

So I have to keep working and running round and round in the hamster-wheel to pay for my student loans, car loan, credit card debt, insurances, save up for a mortgage so I can take on even a bigger loan to convince someone that I may or may not like to start a family with me, so that we can both be indebted for the kids' college education loans.

But still everyday I wake up, and I keep braving it through. Because I'm hoping maybe just maybe, I can be like Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. Hit it out of the ball park, that is the American Dream, work hard and if things don't work out, keep working even harder and harder, and one day freedom will come for me. I have to believe and try, after all this is the American way.

Re: Drinking behind 1 in 10 deaths of working-age adults

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While we are at it, can we list some other addictions that we use to cope with life. Me personally, it's gambling, pornography, sulking alone, facebooking acquaintances to see how they're doing better than me or worse, checking sports score and living vicariously through the lives of professional athletes on and off the field, checking TechCrunch/Hack News and doing the same with tech billionaires, making up lists an…

You don't have to do most of the things on your list. Own your decisions.
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