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Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by netcraft »

calinet6 wrote: post #35
netcraft wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I agree with you - they released Lightroom 5 around the same time as the CC transition, and as far as I can tell they haven't updated it since beyond support for new cameras and bug fixes, which I would have expected for lightroom 5 anyway. The last major update I can find is over a year ago now. They have released Lightroom Mobile but thats all I am aware of. I hope you are right though and that they do…

I think Lightroom was already a bit of a cultural separation from Creative Suite. It's more like Creative Cloud is playing catchup with Lightroom's model, which was already fairly modern and nice. I don't think the monthly model discourages innovation -- as a product person, more people using the new product is more motivating for the organization, not less.

I hope you are right, but I am much more cynical. With a product for professionals like this, when they don't have to come up with a punch list of new features to convince you that the new version is worth spending your hard earned money on instead of staying with your current one, I don't see it as likely that they will be spending the effort they once would have. If the users don't like it, where will they go?

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by adamcw »

a2tech wrote: post #34

Apple needs to allow iPhoto (Photo.app now) to import Aperture libraries then-I have a huge collection of photos in an Aperture library (I no longer have access to Aperture so I can't export the library).

In one of their public statements, they've indicated that the new app will be able to import/open Aperture/iPhoto libraries.

Hopefully the implementation is fairly seamless.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by georgemcbay »

potatolicious wrote: post #21

I really wish the Pixelmator guys will do a product in this category. They've already got the core engine, and they have a perfect 100% intersection with the Aperture userbase (Mac-only). I for one would like to see a OSX-only photo editing suite. If it's anything like Pixelmator (no UI/UX compromises for the sake of cross-platform, insanely fast hardware-accelerated-everything) it'd be a real treat.

The amount of work required for software of this type that can reasonably compete with Lightroom is really massive.

Beyond the obvious editing features you've got colorspace handling issues that most image editors don't bother with (Pixelmator actually handles this fairly well already), the need for a very robust plugin system, non-destructive editing, cataloging features (including image stacks), and a huge amount of largely unnoticed work that goes into simply keeping up with RAW formats for new cameras as well as profiles (for automatic CA/distortion fixing) for new camera/lens combinations.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by psychometry »

ghshephard wrote: post #37
psychometry wrote: post #12

I don't use Aperture, but I think it's really unfortunate that the standard practice for companies like Apple is to simply drop a product entirely rather than open-sourcing it.

I do use Aperture every day, and I'm happy Apple isn't open sourcing it. I want all energy/attention/testing/use to go against their next platform, and not be fractured.

And what if their next platform is insufficient for your needs? Then perhaps you'll wish you still had Aperture as an option, but it'll be an obsolete application with no chance of revival.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by jrockway »

untog wrote: post #6
jmduke wrote: post #2

A weird thing to think about: Instagram is, by most metrics, the world's most successful photo editing software.

Not really that weird. Fast food is, by most metrics, far more popular than Michelin star restaurants. Doesn't mean it replaces them.

McDonalds is probably making more money for its shareholders than The French Laundry, however.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by nnnnni »

ghshephard wrote: post #33

As a multiple-times-a-day Aperture user for the last several years - I'm really glad to hear this. Apple has made it abundantly clear, that they were longer going to invest any effort into Aperture, and so we're going to get the best of all worlds. The application is absolutely rock solid for me - most of the database crashes, and corruptions have stopped occurring for over a year - so in the interim, I have a produc…

Yeah, I'm really hoping that "Photos" will have all of the features of Aperture. It sounds like that's what they're doing.

If it does, that will be great.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by Osmium »

georgemcbay wrote: post #43
potatolicious wrote: post #21

I really wish the Pixelmator guys will do a product in this category. They've already got the core engine, and they have a perfect 100% intersection with the Aperture userbase (Mac-only). I for one would like to see a OSX-only photo editing suite. If it's anything like Pixelmator (no UI/UX compromises for the sake of cross-platform, insanely fast hardware-accelerated-everything) it'd be a real treat.

The amount of work required for software of this type that can reasonably compete with Lightroom is really massive. Beyond the obvious editing features you've got colorspace handling issues that most image editors don't bother with (Pixelmator actually handles this fairly well already), the need for a very robust plugin system, non-destructive editing, cataloging features (including image stacks), and a huge amount o…

> a huge amount of largely unnoticed work that goes into simply keeping up with RAW formats for new cameras

Could this be largely mitigated by only working with DNG files and letting Adobe handle the conversion? Their RAW->DNG converter is free after all.

Re: Apple to Cease Development of Aperture and Transition Users to Photos for OS X

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Post by lh7777 »

a2tech wrote: post #34

Apple needs to allow iPhoto (Photo.app now) to import Aperture libraries then-I have a huge collection of photos in an Aperture library (I no longer have access to Aperture so I can't export the library).

My understanding is that iPhoto and Aperture now share the same library format in the latest versions, so you should be able to open your Aperture library in iPhoto right now.
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