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I'm looking forward to the future of KDE and applaud the team for their effort and passion.
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About performance, I think you can tweak it even more by disabling compositing or even better, setting animation speeds in Kwin to 'Instant'. Also, the switch to Qt5/QML2/Wayland allows graph scene rendering. Expect huge improvements in that area.
I already did that and I'm quite happy with the performance at the moment. Kwin really rocks but I'm hesitant to become friends with the plasma concept in KDE. Ranting from my gut on news.yc is not really productive but I really think it's just bad design. It gets in my way and on my nerves. I don't remember such feelings from Unity or Windows. Qt5/QML2/Wayland are all great ideas but these can't compensate for bad d…
If you feel that strongly about widgets, you can switch to the Folder plasma view, which is a standard OSX, Windows XP-style desktop without any extravagance. Or just widgets on the standard desktop, if even folders aren't austere enough for you.
(I agree with you about activities— so far as I can tell, they're basically virtual desktops without the convenience; ironically, the only 'advantage' they seem to have is having different sets of widgets. But they're basically unintrusive— I certainly don't remember the last time I interacted with them on my desktop)
I have huge respect for everyone involved in KDE and OpenSource software and I'm writing this on KDE 4.13 but damn... it still sucks. Maybe I'm the wrong user.. but I do programming and do sysadmin stuff most of the time.. First the good parts: KDE is quite stable for me. I have hardly any crashes... this is huge as Unity had some ugly bugs I could not resolve. But I had to install the Numix theme and icons and tweak…
Spot on. Plasma is complete crap but nobody will acknowledge it. I was a very passionate kde user (and have also contributed a lot to the code base). I have given up on KDE since the last 4 years or so. The oxygen theme is such an eye sore. The problem is it's sacrilege to question all these decisions in the "community" (whatever is left). And also the constant rewrites is so annoying. First Qt4, then graphics view,…
I guess you can't please everyone.
I have huge respect for everyone involved in KDE and OpenSource software and I'm writing this on KDE 4.13 but damn... it still sucks. Maybe I'm the wrong user.. but I do programming and do sysadmin stuff most of the time.. First the good parts: KDE is quite stable for me. I have hardly any crashes... this is huge as Unity had some ugly bugs I could not resolve. But I had to install the Numix theme and icons and tweak…
That's not the way to do it. Maybe there are some GUI ways to disable it, but in effect, your ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc should have:
[Basic Settings]
Start Nepomuk=false
[Service-nepomukfileindexer]
autostart=false
[Service-nepomukstrigiservice]
autostart=false
... and some more stuff...
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I already did that and I'm quite happy with the performance at the moment. Kwin really rocks but I'm hesitant to become friends with the plasma concept in KDE. Ranting from my gut on news.yc is not really productive but I really think it's just bad design. It gets in my way and on my nerves. I don't remember such feelings from Unity or Windows. Qt5/QML2/Wayland are all great ideas but these can't compensate for bad d…
The switch for disabling activities and widgets exists; you can enable it by not using activities and widgets. It's not like they're forced upon you. If you feel that strongly about widgets, you can switch to the Folder plasma view, which is a standard OSX, Windows XP-style desktop without any extravagance. Or just widgets on the standard desktop, if even folders aren't austere enough for you. (I agree with you about…
Disabling the Desktop in a folder is the first I'm doing when on a new system with KDE. I can see how it is useful to have multiple folders accessible on your desktop but I can also do it with the traditional Desktop and widgets. Never felt the need for it - but there are a lot of different use-cases.
Activities are a great idea in theory. But the implementation got stuck halfway before being really useful. I would love to have a usable version of that and lot of use cases for them e.g. monitoring and terminal stuff in one activity / IDE in another and another one for the browser/mail stuff.. but it never felt right and I was not able to pull that off. It also seems like the programs in each activity do just stay in memory and not really separated... so it's some good idea that is probably really difficult to get right.. okay. No problem with that, but the thing that annoys me a little bit is that they feel so forced upon me. If I don't want to use them they should be to able to configure away completely - remember - I can even rotate my widgets.. ;) as they are unrelated to virtual desktops in KDE (at least that was my conclusion after spending time with them) and only annoy me...
I could go on.. and basically these small little things are what I would say is bad design.. however I can see how difficult these things are and how diverse the opinions are on these debates. But I have the impression that nobody is really happy and as long as there is little improvement in these areas I'm not really excited about QML and mobile stuff..
I still think that the majority of KDE users are running Linux on older machines for doing programming and office work and well... nobody seems to really care about this anymore. Unity suffers from similar problems.
I have huge respect for everyone involved in KDE and OpenSource software and I'm writing this on KDE 4.13 but damn... it still sucks. Maybe I'm the wrong user.. but I do programming and do sysadmin stuff most of the time.. First the good parts: KDE is quite stable for me. I have hardly any crashes... this is huge as Unity had some ugly bugs I could not resolve. But I had to install the Numix theme and icons and tweak…
So I'm curious as to what you're doing wrong.
I have huge respect for everyone involved in KDE and OpenSource software and I'm writing this on KDE 4.13 but damn... it still sucks. Maybe I'm the wrong user.. but I do programming and do sysadmin stuff most of the time.. First the good parts: KDE is quite stable for me. I have hardly any crashes... this is huge as Unity had some ugly bugs I could not resolve. But I had to install the Numix theme and icons and tweak…
This is so, so true. And it is so sad, given that KDE 3 was a very usable, somewhat well-structured (considering the many configuration options) desktop that ran reasonably well on hardware from the previous century. It didn't try so hard to be pretty. Actually, I always thought KDE 2/3 did have a pragmatic, technical elegance. KDE 4 (sorry: KDE-SC-Plasma-something 4) just looks like an early alpha preview uniting al…
This is exactly how I describe KDE 4. It was in development just as Vista was being demoed and it shows. The entire design of the system appears to have been heavily influenced by a failed MS product and the project is still living with that legacy. Time to go back to the KDE 3 code and start working on KDE 5...
I have huge respect for everyone involved in KDE and OpenSource software and I'm writing this on KDE 4.13 but damn... it still sucks. Maybe I'm the wrong user.. but I do programming and do sysadmin stuff most of the time.. First the good parts: KDE is quite stable for me. I have hardly any crashes... this is huge as Unity had some ugly bugs I could not resolve. But I had to install the Numix theme and icons and tweak…
But in terms of KDE itself, I'm a recent convert and absolutely loving it. I just wish that if you wanted to change the look, you didn't have to hit three or four different settings (window chrome, taskbar, wallpaper, mouse icons etc) - it'd be nice if there was a 'theme' section that did all of these at once. But otherwise I do love the old-school tweakability of it, something that's being pounded out of major desktops (including win and osx) these days. I use KDE as a traditional desktop, no 'activities' or 'widgets' and it works fine.
Given the generally lower developer resources that open-source projects have, I think it's less of an issue that it's not optimised for older, 'underpowered' hardware - there are other DE's to handle that (but yes, in an ideal world...). LXDE and XFCE are popular and work better on those machines... they're just not well-integrated like a heavyweight DE...
But the new Plasma design looks excellent. If you guys can pull off an environment with great customization options and out-of-the-box elegance, that would be fantastic. Looks like the new design is headed in the right direction.