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I can see the usecase for this. Especially abroad (expensive data) and in areas with poor data (Edge connection or even GPRS) this would be a life-saver.
I've been a massive fan of Opera Mini for years now, and this is really impressive! I wonder how it's implemented? Years ago, on Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) it struggled with Javascript. Is that still the case? Is it merely UIWebView + a proxy to do the compression?
Personally I had to turn it off in chrome as a handful of links stopped working (presumably due to abuse originating from the shared proxy IPs)
I've been a massive fan of Opera Mini for years now, and this is really impressive! I wonder how it's implemented? Years ago, on Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) it struggled with Javascript. Is that still the case? Is it merely UIWebView + a proxy to do the compression?
Since Apple only allow browsers use built-in webkit engine in iOS. The turbo mode is use Opera's proxy to compress data, and render them by webkit. Therefore the user agent says they are AppleWebKit: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 7_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/537.51.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) OPiOS/8.0.0.78865 Mobile/11D201 Safari/9537.53 But for "Opera Mini" mode, it will render the page at their server, then sen…
Wow. I'm surprised that Mini is still that far behind Desktop (2.12.388), but I guess updating Presto isn't exactly a high priority compared with moving to Blink.
I can see the usecase for this. Especially abroad (expensive data) and in areas with poor data (Edge connection or even GPRS) this would be a life-saver.
I have had Opera Mini installed on my iPhone since it was released for exactly this reason—it performs noticeably better than Safari when at the very fringes of data service coverage. It's not really a situation I'm in terribly often, but it has saved the day a handful of times.
I've been a massive fan of Opera Mini for years now, and this is really impressive! I wonder how it's implemented? Years ago, on Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) it struggled with Javascript. Is that still the case? Is it merely UIWebView + a proxy to do the compression?
This release has a secondary new mode that we hope will replace the older OBML-without-javascript mode over time, as devices get faster. It's basically Opera Turbo v2, attempting to get optimally efficient network benefits of the old Opera Mini to work with full web rendering using webkit. (On iOS Apple have been thoughtful enough to make it possible to make it possible to replace the network layer of the built-in we…
Can you point to any papers/specs/sources concerning OBML or the likes?
I was always fascinated by it (and have been trying to do something similar for my own amusement, most recently with webkit), but while getting a serialised render tree to display is trivial, making something half as usable as Opera Mini has always been seems impossible.
I believe there is still a huge market for smaller devices (probably smaller than feature phones) on which this style of web access is much thought after.
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This release has a secondary new mode that we hope will replace the older OBML-without-javascript mode over time, as devices get faster. It's basically Opera Turbo v2, attempting to get optimally efficient network benefits of the old Opera Mini to work with full web rendering using webkit. (On iOS Apple have been thoughtful enough to make it possible to make it possible to replace the network layer of the built-in we…
Cool, so OBML remains on Presto until it is phased out completely? Can you point to any papers/specs/sources concerning OBML or the likes? I was always fascinated by it (and have been trying to do something similar for my own amusement, most recently with webkit), but while getting a serialised render tree to display is trivial, making something half as usable as Opera Mini has always been seems impossible. I believe…