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Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

#71
The Do Not Track movement says Do Not Make Money.

The entire movement is pissing against the wind. Tracking is how these companies make money. This is their motivation system. A "low" of current online physics is "tracking makes money".

As such, it's a waste of energy. Change physics first.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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post #71

The Do Not Track movement says Do Not Make Money. The entire movement is pissing against the wind. Tracking is how these companies make money. This is their motivation system. A "low" of current online physics is "tracking makes money". As such, it's a waste of energy. Change physics first.

By the way, many people make valuable content and support their work by ads. Ads are online currency. I am not using adblock because it is like stealing their work without paying.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

#74

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No, that stuff only happens when I pay with my credit card, I guess.

And use a frequent shopper card.

And fill out those surveys on the back of the receipt where you would win $1,000 in gift cards.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

#75

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Do you wear an ID around your neck? Do you walk into an establishment, introduce yourself, tell the keeper where you came from, when was the last time you visited, check in with an inter-business tracking device, and then ask them to forget all that? This is what a browser with (or more appropriately, on) DNT is doing. Long way from camouflage. And offline, we should also employ techniques like randomizing MAC addres…

> Do you wear an ID around your neck? Do you walk into an establishment, introduce yourself, tell the keeper where you came from, when was the last time you visited, check in with an inter-business tracking device, and then ask them to forget all that? Don't worry, there's a startup that's "fixing" that[0]. Nomi uses the MAC address of your phone to identify the brick-and-mortar venues you visit. It's opt- out for co…

This actually gets killed by an upcoming iOS 8 update (which randomizes you MAC every time it searches for wifi networks). Big pro-privacy change from Apple. While it is problematic that this is iOS only (for now, at least), the large number of iOS device will introduce a ton of noise and make the tracking much less interesting for any company, even if they can theoretically still track Android devices.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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I also walk around town completely uncamouflaged, voluntarily displaying my uniquely identifiable face and whatnot, and yet somehow most businesses can still restrain themselves and do not follow me around, colluding to enable each other to videotape my every step for analytics purpose. Sure, there's some technical steps that can be taken but there's also a social or cultural dimension to what behavior is popularly a…

Do you wear an ID around your neck? Do you walk into an establishment, introduce yourself, tell the keeper where you came from, when was the last time you visited, check in with an inter-business tracking device, and then ask them to forget all that? This is what a browser with (or more appropriately, on) DNT is doing. Long way from camouflage. And offline, we should also employ techniques like randomizing MAC addres…

Actually, I don't lock my car because the crime rate in my area is pretty low. In fact the front door of my parents' house is unlocked during the day when they're not home. They've never been burgled.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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post #71

The Do Not Track movement says Do Not Make Money. The entire movement is pissing against the wind. Tracking is how these companies make money. This is their motivation system. A "low" of current online physics is "tracking makes money". As such, it's a waste of energy. Change physics first.

A "low" of current online physics is "tracking makes money".

That's what this fixes. By pushing back against tracking, we will force websites to use other ways to make money.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

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AdBlock Plus once blocked Google ads, till Google decided to pay them [0] to "whitelist" their ads by default. The cynical part of me sees this as a precursor for AdBlock to sign a deal with Facebook and let their ads/tracking through too, for a price of course. [0] http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/5/4496852/adblock-plus-eye-go...

If you want to disable the "Allow some non-intrusive advertising", that option is available.

I have adblock installed on every machine I use, and I have that unchecked. Google 'unobtrusive' ads still appear.

Re: Adblock Plus gives Facebook users a way to block its extended tracking efforts

#80

I take it Ghostery takes care of it as well. Does anybody know?

Yes, Ghostery has multiple different Facebook trackers in it's database.

This doesn't seem like anything new, just a reaction to the news that Facebook is going to expand what they do with the data they collect.

(I'm a Ghostery developer)

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