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Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by xauronx »

the_ancient wrote: post #34
timjahn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Does it matter if person folding your laundry got into a drunken fight when they were 19? Not really." No. It doesn't. Does it matter if a person with a history of DUIs (or even ONE) drives me for Lyft? Yes. Does it matter if a person with a history of armed robbery or home invasion delivers groceries to my house for Instacart? Yes.

Why? Are they Drunk when they pick you up? If not why does not matter if they were drunk 5 years ago, or 1 day ago, they are not drunk at the moment so that is all that should concern you. I see you have a huge amount of faith in the legal system... That is sad

If someone got a DUI last week, I would NOT want them driving me. What's your logic behind thinking that people's actions shouldn't affect their future? Seems like the majority opinion here is similar to yours, which is absolutely confusing to me. "Who cares if they raped a child last week? They aren't raping you RIGHT NOW so it doesn't matter!"

Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by scolson »

dyanisse wrote: post #26
scolson wrote: post #22

Like someone else pointed out, it would be ideal to be able to delete reports (or at a minimum ssn information). The site looks nice and clean. After running a report on myself, I noticed it said for a minute or so that my ssn was incorrect before it changed to stating it was cleared. Also, while the national check for me came back clear (as expected), I was curious if that was literally all the report said. I would…

please email daniel at checkr.io and we will delete your SSN and personal data. This is a light version of a background check (since we have to pay for it). Our pricing page references packages with extensive screenings and results.

Isn't the point of the test to get exactly what I can expect as a result as a paying customer? Otherwise, what am I really validating?

I will happily email daniel for deleting the personal data. While that works well for a HN comment thread, I still think it shouldn't require interaction on your part.

Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by the_ancient »

dyanisse wrote: post #50
maresca wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see nothing in there having to do with criminal charges. Only credit and financial records. Am I missing something?

Yes the FCRA regulates consumer reports and background checks are consumer reports even if they are not mentioned in the text. https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0157-employment-backgr... Please speak to a lawyer before making false statements.

Actually it appears we are both right.

Companies such as yours are prohibited from disclosing it because you are classified as "consumer reporting agency" however the disclosure of criminal records by non-consumer reporting agencies is not limited to 7 years.

Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by the_ancient »

xauronx wrote: post #51
the_ancient wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Are they Drunk when they pick you up? If not why does not matter if they were drunk 5 years ago, or 1 day ago, they are not drunk at the moment so that is all that should concern you. I see you have a huge amount of faith in the legal system... That is sad

If someone got a DUI last week, I would NOT want them driving me. What's your logic behind thinking that people's actions shouldn't affect their future? Seems like the majority opinion here is similar to yours, which is absolutely confusing to me. "Who cares if they raped a child last week? They aren't raping you RIGHT NOW so it doesn't matter!"

There are multiple reasons for this, first and foremost even if you believe you should be allowed to know about criminals you may be interacting with I do not agree that most of that info should be publicly available in a simple REST request where anyone from Stalkers, to other criminals can get any information they desire on me simply by paying a small fee. That is an extreme privacy violation IMO. you are looking at only from the Rose Colored "Catch a criminal" lens, and not considering any of the consequences.

Further I do not trust the government or the legal system at all, and have no reason to believe a person convicted of DUI or raping a child under the current legal system was in fact guilty of those charges.

Lastly even if a person is a criminal I do not believe in the notion of a Scarlet Letter society which is what this company is companies like it are attempting to create. This effectively kills any Second Chance a person that made a mistake in the past has. You forever make them second class and ultimately encourage them to commit more, and probably ever increasing violent crimes

Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by tehwebguy »

phillmv wrote: post #32
timjahn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Does it matter if person folding your laundry got into a drunken fight when they were 19? Not really." No. It doesn't. Does it matter if a person with a history of DUIs (or even ONE) drives me for Lyft? Yes. Does it matter if a person with a history of armed robbery or home invasion delivers groceries to my house for Instacart? Yes.

Surely, your emotional reaction depends on how long ago the DUI was. What if they had ONE DUI ten years ago? Armed robbery and home invasion are very different crimes. Just because they held up a liquor store doesn't mean they're going to rob you while you sit in the backseat of their car, with their picture and full identity flashing on your phone. And home invasions are crimes of opportunity. I'm not sure I think t…

> Surely, your emotional reaction depends on how long ago the DUI was. What if they had ONE DUI ten years ago?

Yeah, DUI should disqualify you from ever driving professionally IMO. Anecdotal, sure, but my experience is that people who actually have a DUI are the ones that finally got caught after years.

Then again, the well to do people I know (or ones with a well to do family) with a DUI actually got their charge reduced to reckless driving by fighting it in court, so maybe there are as many false negatives as positives.

Re: Show HN: Checkr.io – API for background checks

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Post by dyanisse »

scolson wrote: post #52
dyanisse wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

please email daniel at checkr.io and we will delete your SSN and personal data. This is a light version of a background check (since we have to pay for it). Our pricing page references packages with extensive screenings and results.

Isn't the point of the test to get exactly what I can expect as a result as a paying customer? Otherwise, what am I really validating? I will happily email daniel for deleting the personal data. While that works well for a HN comment thread, I still think it shouldn't require interaction on your part.

thanks for your feedback, we will add the ability to delete an account and all related data in our product.
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