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Google's Nest seems to be setting out a home automation standard, partnering with Whirlpool, Mercedes-Benz, Jawbone, LIFX, IFTTT, Logitech, and Chamberlain. Over the weekend, Quirky announced its $79 Wink hub, partnering with Home Depot, Honeywell, GE, Rachio, and Philips. The two announcements were obviously timed against each other. It's hard to tell who is reacting to whom, but my bet is that Quirky is hurriedly r…

Don't forget Archos announcing their home automation kit just a few days ago

http://www.archos.com/us/products/objects/chome/ash/specs.ht...

It's very, very competitively priced! Nest, in the UK at least appears quite expensive. I also dislike how currently the intra-operability is provided via cloud services, from both a privacy and reliability of my internet perspective.

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I have a Nest. Nest doesn't allow you to access your own data that they are no doubt collecting, and their app only shows your energy use for the last 10 days. This makes it absolutely useless for trying to figure out how to optimize your energy usage on a month-to-month or season-by-season basis.

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Google's Nest seems to be setting out a home automation standard, partnering with Whirlpool, Mercedes-Benz, Jawbone, LIFX, IFTTT, Logitech, and Chamberlain. Over the weekend, Quirky announced its $79 Wink hub, partnering with Home Depot, Honeywell, GE, Rachio, and Philips. The two announcements were obviously timed against each other. It's hard to tell who is reacting to whom, but my bet is that Quirky is hurriedly r…

I'm glad you mentioned HomeKit, because at this point, I'm really starting to fight my desire to go out and hook all of these things up to make sure they work with HomeKit. Apple doesn't exactly have a history of really releasing the standards they say they will (looking at you, iMessage), but I'm all for the idea of standardized home automation.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have noticed a trend among our friends, (not technical folks), who actually turns off their heating when they go out. It is as common as turning off their lights when they leave the room. I guess Nest is heading towards this direction, but pre-warming a house very "first-world".

Not to keep harping on the subject (see my comments above), but pre-warming or pre-cooling houses is actually a really great solution to solving our energy problems with algorithms. It's not strictly a "first world" problem. Imagine a neighborhood of 100 homes where you know all 100 people will return approximately at 6pm in the winter, and they all want 72 degrees. Taking into account the insulation of each home, if…

Won't dense, affluent neighborhoods mostly be natural gas for heating?

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Google's Nest seems to be setting out a home automation standard, partnering with Whirlpool, Mercedes-Benz, Jawbone, LIFX, IFTTT, Logitech, and Chamberlain. Over the weekend, Quirky announced its $79 Wink hub, partnering with Home Depot, Honeywell, GE, Rachio, and Philips. The two announcements were obviously timed against each other. It's hard to tell who is reacting to whom, but my bet is that Quirky is hurriedly r…

Here is the Wink website:

https://www.winkapp.com/

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It'll be interesting to see how they plan to market this to people, because I have to tell you... "your thermostat integrates with your car, washer and jawbone bracelet" is damn confusing to me as a value proposition. Yeah I see the potential, but even though I'm a programmer, I see a lot of random shit put together, and no clear reason why I should go through the effort of building a mental model around it in order…

I expect they will market the dishwasher as saving a bit of money when you have the thermostat. Similar with vehicles, it's a feature to check off when you are at the dealer.

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"your thermostat will start to heat up or cool down your home before you even step out of bed." umm in my house, in the winter, that would mean lying in bed awake for 30 min waiting for my house to heat up

The nest learns how long it takes to heat your house so if you wake up at roughly the same time every day it will start heating the house 30 minutes before you wake up.

e.g., you always wake up at 6am on mon-fri and it takes 30 mins to heat the house then it starts heating at 5:30am, but on saturday you sleep in until 9:30, and the sun has already raised your homes temp a few degrees and it only takes 25 then it starts it at 9:05am.

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If its "Your data. Your privacy. You’re in control.". Why won't they let me self-host? The two things don't add up.

My primary concern is my house becoming part of Google's walled garden. "Oh, my garage door doesn't work anymore as it is controlled exclusively by 'Works with Nest.'"

Could you imagine the PR fallout if that did really happen? I'm pretty sure Google is going to be smart here and have graceful fallbacks when the interconnects don't work (for whatever reason).
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