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Re: Surface Pro 3 Review

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Post by stcredzero »

withdavidli wrote: post #58
stcredzero wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at Microsoft's track record, if Apple could execute on a tablet stylus with their traditional level of excellence, they could kill! If I could have a combination of a small Macbook and an iPad mini which could also act like a decent "mini Graphire," this would be simply awesome! They could sell tons of these to the angsty teenage journalling set. It would also be a tremendous boon to designers and game and we…

One of the reasons why I bought the SP3 before the Apple announcement this year is because I know how unlikely they are to come out with a product such as this because it would cannibalize their tablet line. Lesson learned the hard way waiting for an iPod Touch with a good camera (0.7mp...).

One of the reasons why I bought the SP3 before the Apple announcement this year is because I know how unlikely they are to come out with a product such as this because it would cannibalize their tablet line.

How could Apple's tablet cannibalize Apple's tablet line?

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Post by rayiner »

sremani wrote: post #59
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #57

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Well, you still get what you pay for. Is there a PC laptop with a decent trackpad experience at any price point?

Does a macbook has touchscreen at any price-point ? At least with the windows machine if you have trouble with trackpad, touchscreen will come to rescue. Its insane how people get hung up one thing and talk as if that is central. When Apple released Retina branded hi-res, its all about resolution, now that Macbooks are not hi-res than their competition somehow its not that important anymore. Dude, its just a tool - u…

Some things are more important than others. A good keyboard and good touchpad is more useful and important than a touchscreen.

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Post by lallysingh »

fit2rule wrote: post #27

I'd love to get one of these, but I simply cannot fathom investing in hardware on which Linux will not run. I suppose it would work in a VM, but .. really .. what a pity that its so locked down and unworkable to change ones OS in this day and age. Register this one protest non-buy, fwiw ..

You can change the OS on this, the driver support's got some issues. The Windows RT machines were completely locked down.

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Post by fit2rule »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #29
fit2rule wrote: post #27

I'd love to get one of these, but I simply cannot fathom investing in hardware on which Linux will not run. I suppose it would work in a VM, but .. really .. what a pity that its so locked down and unworkable to change ones OS in this day and age. Register this one protest non-buy, fwiw ..

Apparently it's really easy to install Ubuntu [1] on a Surface Pro 3. "...you’ll find that most things work out of the box. WiFi works, but only 2.4GHz networks can be detected. The touchpad on the Type Cover works, but the keyboard does not. You’ll need to activate the virtual keyboard in the accessibility setting to get much of anything done, and Ubuntu’s virtual keyboard is lacking in desirable features. There are…

Ah well that is a relief .. as long as we can boot it without having to go through arcane enchantment, we can fix all of that. I wonder why MS decided not to implement the Type Cover keyboard as a standard USB device, seems pretty weird to me, but then again maybe they've created a new accessory market for themselves, yet again ..

Good to know Ubuntu at least boots on the thing and you can get on a network. I guess it'll be a matter of a small amount of time before the rest of the device works. When that happens, I'll seriously consider getting one ..

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Post by fit2rule »

DiThi wrote: post #36
fit2rule wrote: post #27

I'd love to get one of these, but I simply cannot fathom investing in hardware on which Linux will not run. I suppose it would work in a VM, but .. really .. what a pity that its so locked down and unworkable to change ones OS in this day and age. Register this one protest non-buy, fwiw ..

I bet the type cover 3 works with the same patch for the covers 2. The only big issue I have with Linux in my Pro 2 is WiFi. I compile from time to time a wireless-testing branch of the kernel to find the most stable build. Also I have a very small WiFi dongle for when the internal one stops working. I hope the Pro 3 WiFi is not as problematic. Also I'm working in my spare time in a bunch of scripts to imporove the s…

Great to know you're working on such things - if I didn't have a deep-seated mistrust of MS in general, I'd probably be a bit more willing to deal with some of these issues myself, but I'm also willing to admit that my prejudice is preventing me from checking out what looks to be some sweet, sweet hardware.

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Post by baconstrp »

OK mine decided to shut down itself for the second time ever since I had it. Full battery charging, No BSOD, not even useless crash report after boot. I'm done, eBay there it goes, bye.

Re: Surface Pro 3 Review

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Post by baconstrp »

skrebbel wrote: post #30
withdavidli wrote: post #7

Just got mine yesterday (typing on it for this post). There are some problems on it I wasn't expecting. - Drawing apps like Fresh Paint don't work sometimes when on split screen. By doesn't work, I mean it won't recognize the pen on start up. I would have to full screen the app, use the pen, then I can use the pen on split screen. - Apps aren't adjusted to split screens correctly. The resizing of the apps gets rid of…

Genuinely wondering, why Chrome? IE11 has a really awesome touch UX, in the metro version, IMO. Did you try it and dismiss it, or not even consider it given IE's track record?

uhmm, people want choice?

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Post by stevoo »

chenster wrote: post #63

Microsoft, stop bombarding us with your ads, you've already missed the train even after your 3rd try.

I have been a linux user for the past 10 years. Didn't event want to bother with Windows for all that time.

This machine is the only thing that will get me to use windows again (if i dont end up installing linux on it)

As far as hardware i believe this is superb machine. They might have lost the train, but if they keep it up the version 4 will be much much better.

They just need to continue improving the software

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Post by [deleted] »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #60
sremani wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does a macbook has touchscreen at any price-point ? At least with the windows machine if you have trouble with trackpad, touchscreen will come to rescue. Its insane how people get hung up one thing and talk as if that is central. When Apple released Retina branded hi-res, its all about resolution, now that Macbooks are not hi-res than their competition somehow its not that important anymore. Dude, its just a tool - u…

> Does a macbook has touchscreen at any price-point ? Why do I care? I barely use the touchscreen on my 16k RMB X1, and I numb my pointer finger on its precise yet painful trackpoint because the trackpad is useless . Without the trackpoint, I would have to give up, since the touch screen really doesn't work for programming. > Dude, its just a tool - use it if you can. A tool that doesn't work, and I'm pissed off abou…

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