We Have No Idea If Online Ads Work
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#12Now that product info is ubiquitous, the author says, the role of brands and traditional advertising is declining. So, when I hear critiques about a particular form of online advertising, I think about the broader, more subtle ways in which websites influence our purchases. Companies are starting to pay more attention to online forums and social sites, which are more persuasive to consumers than traditional banner ads.
[0] http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2014/02/17/140217ta_...
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#13There are also new annoying features of online advertising that might turn consumers off. Even after buying something I frequently see ads for the same exact product from the same exact vendor for several days. For some reason this annoys me so much that it turns me off from the vendor.
It's called remarketing. If they're showing you an ad for a product you actually bought, they're doing it wrong. It's supposed to show you an ad for something you looked at, but didn't buy.
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#14There are also new annoying features of online advertising that might turn consumers off. Even after buying something I frequently see ads for the same exact product from the same exact vendor for several days. For some reason this annoys me so much that it turns me off from the vendor.
There is a theoretical justification for that (note: "theory" not used in the scientific sense!) -- for large ticket items like cars, recent buyers are more likely to notice an ad for the expensive item they just bought. Some ads are aimed at them to make the whole "experience" somehow better, to offset buyer's remorse. That way you will talk up your purchase and be more likely to buy another when you replace it.
The other is when you have a high volume low-price item (e.g. toothpaste): you've demonstrated a willingness to buy (i.e. you're a qualified buyer at some level) so why not try to remind you that the next time you need toothpaste you should get it from the same place?
Since so much marketing "science" is bull, nobody actually knows if this works (any more than they do with the online ads). But at least your seeing these time-wasting ads is intentional, rather than necessarily a software error.
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#15You can use web analytics to measure a conversion rate from ads. Hence user clicks ad -> sales happens (in the best cases). That's Internet Ads 101
In fact, with online ads the "if it works" part is much more measurable than for other medias
"Last year, a group of economists working with eBay’s internal research lab issued a massive experimental study with a simple, startling conclusion: For a large, well-known brand, search ads are probably worthless."
Once again: "For a large, well-known brand"
Well, so do you mean that pumping ads for something everybody already knows (and already gets massive advertisement everywhere else) doesn't work? Color me shocked.
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#18The premise of the article is naive at best You can use web analytics to measure a conversion rate from ads. Hence user clicks ad -> sales happens (in the best cases). That's Internet Ads 101 In fact, with online ads the "if it works" part is much more measurable than for other medias "Last year, a group of economists working with eBay’s internal research lab issued a massive experimental study with a simple, startli…
Ie showing an ad on Google to someone who types 'Ebay' in the search string is a waste of money - since Ebay shows up as the first natural result anyways.
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#19As I remember it, they were in a stale-mate. The market was pretty much divided up. Most people were loyal to their brand and that was that. Despite that, they were spending a massive amount of money on advertising even though their market shares remained unchanged.
The reason was that if one of them stopped funnelling massive amounts of cash into advertising, they would lose a big chunk of their market share to the others. So they were all paying mostly to maintain the status quo.
With the ban on advertising, the amount of money saved greatly outweighed the revenue lost as others couldn't advertise either so it really only affected new smokers rather than convince current smokers to switch brands.
I see a similar thing happening in my line of work. In our niche of e-commerce every player of importance works with the same online marketing networks and paying rather a lot per sale or click.
There's a whole lot of sites out there which basically exist to infest organic search results, send traffic to us and our competitors and collect their referral fee from the advertising network. They add no value[1]. Without them, the customer would have been similarly divided amongst the competition as well without having to pay for it. Yet, if we stop paying them, we'll lose a lot of business as our competitors will continue to do so.
Disclaimer: this is all as I understand it and in no way my employers opinion or persepctive ;)
1) Some do, by providing extra information or ranking the shops by what's best for the consumer (price, reviews) rather than the most cash-per-click.
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#20The premise of the article is naive at best You can use web analytics to measure a conversion rate from ads. Hence user clicks ad -> sales happens (in the best cases). That's Internet Ads 101 In fact, with online ads the "if it works" part is much more measurable than for other medias "Last year, a group of economists working with eBay’s internal research lab issued a massive experimental study with a simple, startli…
The point of the article is that the sale would happen regardless of the ad. Ie showing an ad on Google to someone who types 'Ebay' in the search string is a waste of money - since Ebay shows up as the first natural result anyways.
http://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-not-to-run-a-ppc-camp...
I'm sure you've noticed that a search for any noun called forth an ad for eBay. You're enticed to "buy Dog Vomit on eBay" when your dog is sick. And then, even if it was something eBay plausibly sold, when you clicked through it'd take you to a generic eBay search page or, often, a landing page that was not useful at all.