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Please don't use hnreputation

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Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by jacquesm »

nir wrote: post #16

The whole idea of "Karma" is silly. It encourages conforming to majority views and rewards people who are talkative rather than insightful - often mutually exclusive groups, since insight is gained by thinking & doing rather than posting comments. I think HN would do well to drop karma scores altogether, making this script a non-issue to begin with.

Karma is a great tool, but mostly behind the scenes. Keep the up/down arrows, lose the points until after a vote has been made, keep the name. That way you get away from the 'group think' mode.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by jacquesm »

rincewind wrote: post #26
brk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;) I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.

I trust security advice from tptacek or cperciva more than from [name withheld until you vote]. Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.

If you are not in a position to evaluate an argument about security you probably shouldn't be following the advice anyway.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

#83

Post by xuhu »

rincewind wrote: post #26
brk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;) I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.

I trust security advice from tptacek or cperciva more than from [name withheld until you vote]. Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.

> Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.

Randomly generated names, until you vote ?

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by ilitirit »

brk wrote: post #17
nir wrote: post #16

The whole idea of "Karma" is silly. It encourages conforming to majority views and rewards people who are talkative rather than insightful - often mutually exclusive groups, since insight is gained by thinking & doing rather than posting comments. I think HN would do well to drop karma scores altogether, making this script a non-issue to begin with.

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;) I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.

I'd prefer to see the number of karma points hidden, rather than the user name. The user names don't really interest me that much, and I tend to forget them very quickly.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

#85

Post by radu_floricica »

brk wrote: post #17
nir wrote: post #16

The whole idea of "Karma" is silly. It encourages conforming to majority views and rewards people who are talkative rather than insightful - often mutually exclusive groups, since insight is gained by thinking & doing rather than posting comments. I think HN would do well to drop karma scores altogether, making this script a non-issue to begin with.

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;) I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.

Or just hide it and show it on mouse over.

The only problem is that is makes conversations difficult to follow. Who answered this post? The OP? The grandparent? Somebody else? One solution is to display made-up ids, but they have to be easy to recognize. Some help would be if you mouse-over an id to show the name on all the posts of the same user.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by Novash »

eru wrote: post #77
adimit wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about withholding the name still, but offering a way to 'opt-out' from voting. You don't see the name until you either vote up or opt out. After you've withheld your voice, you can't go vote again on that submission/comment.

> you either vote up or opt out How about voting down?

You can't vote down until you hit a certain karma threshold.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by Novash »

calcnerd256 wrote: post #70
rincewind wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I trust security advice from tptacek or cperciva more than from [name withheld until you vote]. Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.

If users can no longer rely upon their names being displayed, they will come up with alternate ways of identifying themselves. Forced anonymous has worked in some places in the past.

I don't know why you were downvotted. You do have a point. If we hide the name of the user on the header, they will probably simply post their name on the post itself.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

#88

Post by pjvandehaar »

rincewind wrote: post #26
brk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;) I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.

I trust security advice from tptacek or cperciva more than from [name withheld until you vote]. Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.

An answer to the second would be a system pointing out people's replies to themselves.

Re: Please don't use hnreputation

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Post by neoclassical »

nir wrote: post #16

The whole idea of "Karma" is silly. It encourages conforming to majority views and rewards people who are talkative rather than insightful - often mutually exclusive groups, since insight is gained by thinking & doing rather than posting comments. I think HN would do well to drop karma scores altogether, making this script a non-issue to begin with.

It's the "ad populum" fallacy in numeric form.
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