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> After a little practice, it can even get easy. Just googling for "vertical align text css" should be enough to tell you that different layout is needed. Why shouldn't there be a layout model that makes it easy to do the things people are trying to do? The idea that we shouldn't even attempt to create a better one is silly.
We already have one. http://jsfiddle.net/gJP9k/
The web is now hamstrung by the HTML/CSS layout model more than anything else. The hackery required to attempt to imitate native mobile apps is horrific. Google would be better off throwing efforts into a new layout engine leveraging raw JS and WebGL, but with a sane API, than these continuous attempts to push HTML into places where it doesn't work. If they don't lead it I can see someone else doing it in such a way…
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This is the same complaining I always hear from people who don't want to learn how to use HTML and CSS. Yes, it is different than what you are used to. Yes, it will take some time to learn and some of that will be uncomfortable. But that does not mean that that HTML and CSS are bad. I know this because I successfully build mobile sites that look and function fine and I assure you it works. You say "hackery is require…
> After a little practice, it can even get easy. Just googling for "vertical align text css" should be enough to tell you that different layout is needed. Why shouldn't there be a layout model that makes it easy to do the things people are trying to do? The idea that we shouldn't even attempt to create a better one is silly.
There you go. That CSS is useful for popup dialogs. Though most of the difficulties I see with vertical-alignment are due to poor design and implementation.
HTML and CSS get new features all the time so clearly nobody is saying they shouldn't improve. It's people saying that "HTML is inherently broken so there should be something else but they don't know what" that I am getting sick of.
It seems the navigation disappears entirely when you shrink the window. I would think they would implement their "hamburger" icon?
The web is now hamstrung by the HTML/CSS layout model more than anything else. The hackery required to attempt to imitate native mobile apps is horrific. Google would be better off throwing efforts into a new layout engine leveraging raw JS and WebGL, but with a sane API, than these continuous attempts to push HTML into places where it doesn't work. If they don't lead it I can see someone else doing it in such a way…
This is the same complaining I always hear from people who don't want to learn how to use HTML and CSS. Yes, it is different than what you are used to. Yes, it will take some time to learn and some of that will be uncomfortable. But that does not mean that that HTML and CSS are bad. I know this because I successfully build mobile sites that look and function fine and I assure you it works. You say "hackery is require…
its not fashion, it is UX, usability, and standardization
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This is the same complaining I always hear from people who don't want to learn how to use HTML and CSS. Yes, it is different than what you are used to. Yes, it will take some time to learn and some of that will be uncomfortable. But that does not mean that that HTML and CSS are bad. I know this because I successfully build mobile sites that look and function fine and I assure you it works. You say "hackery is require…
> After a little practice, it can even get easy. Just googling for "vertical align text css" should be enough to tell you that different layout is needed. Why shouldn't there be a layout model that makes it easy to do the things people are trying to do? The idea that we shouldn't even attempt to create a better one is silly.
I suppose you could go this route. More realistic is to produce different server side files for each client type and keep it simple. There are tons of business reasons to make them physically separate as well, special promotions, advertising requirements, conditional scripts, etc.
https://developers.google.com/webmasters/smartphone-sites/de...
"Sites that use responsive web design, i.e. sites that serve all devices on the same set of URLs, with each URL serving the same HTML to all devices and using just CSS to change how the page is rendered on the device. This is Google's recommended configuration."
Generally I've found that when Google recommends something, their search algo prefers this too. I obviously don't have direct proof that it does, but if SEO matters I'd follow what they suggest.
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This is the same complaining I always hear from people who don't want to learn how to use HTML and CSS. Yes, it is different than what you are used to. Yes, it will take some time to learn and some of that will be uncomfortable. But that does not mean that that HTML and CSS are bad. I know this because I successfully build mobile sites that look and function fine and I assure you it works. You say "hackery is require…
> After a little practice, it can even get easy. Just googling for "vertical align text css" should be enough to tell you that different layout is needed. Why shouldn't there be a layout model that makes it easy to do the things people are trying to do? The idea that we shouldn't even attempt to create a better one is silly.
If you want to align text vertically, you just do
font-size: 20px;
line-height: 40px;
vertical-align: middle;
It seems the navigation disappears entirely when you shrink the window. I would think they would implement their "hamburger" icon?
Ah, cool I think you have hit an intended design feature. We use min-device-width to know that you started on a smaller screen (or a wide screen). If you are on a wide screen responsive elements are changed slightly to fit the screen. If you start on a small screen you get the hamburger menu. Can you file an issue on the github project so that we can work on it to see if it is an issue.
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Web was never meant for applications. Other hypertext models like Hypercard and Xerox PARC experiments had better support. I really hope that we can sort out this mess some day. I personally like apps are making the network more relevant than the Web. What matters are communication protocols.
"Web was never meant for applications" And yet the web is a better platform for applications than anything else. Zero installation, linkable states via URLs, universal back button support, accessibility hooks, multi-device, write-once-run-anywhere and an enormous variety of available programming languages. All of that, AND it's built on top of truly open standards that aren't controlled by a single company and can't…