Looks great, as a team that lives inside Gmail and Asana this could be very useful for us.
Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
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Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#22Looks great, as a team that lives inside Gmail and Asana this could be very useful for us.
Thanks Synergyse, We are planning to release soon, Love to get your feedback.
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#23Cool project. If I understand, it learns what emails mean and what actions should be triggered across all users. So I guess it must store my emails and actions somewhere, to participate to this across-the-board learning. I wonder if users will be concerned about this.
Good point. In fact, we are concerned about that quite a bit - so much so that we will soon be releasing details of how reconstructing somebody's email is close to impossible, even by the Quickly team. Basically, we are storing only patterns, not email content directly.
You're expecting people to take your word for it.
Even if you're telling the truth, when your security is compromised, so are all your users' email, because you have full access to it.
Bottom line: Yet another "web 2.x", proprietary, "beta," SaaS, subscription, third-party, unrestricted-privacy-compromising tool without a business model that might be around for a few years before being bought and ruined or going bankrupt. One would have to be nuts to trust it and to build one's business processes around it.
And why? Seriously, it could be done client-side without compromising account credentials or email privacy in a bit of Perl or Python, maybe a browser extension, and throw in some Bayesian analysis to reduce the need for manual templating and scraping. A few hours in Emacs/gnus/etc and no need to hand over ALL OF MY EMAIL to yet another "but we're only storing your patterns!" third-party web site.
Someday people will wake up to the insanity and stop trusting these ephemeral convenience services. The question is, will it happen naturally, or will it take more massive security/privacy breaches before people stop being so lazy and nai...I mean, trusting?
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#24Cool. After watching the video, I understand pg's post about founder accents better: http://paulgraham.com/accents.html I can understand you, but I had to focus on it, instead of focusing on your product. The screencast is fine, although long. Structure the benefits and features you want to communicate and outline these before diving into the "how". Script the audio. Don't wait for the sync to Asana.
Thanks, I have read pg's post and quite agree with it. I have tried to keep the voice as clear as possible but the Indian accent just pops up :-) Your suggestions are really useful. I will try to list out the benefits we have in mind on the website as well as write a post about it.
I see you are needing some design help on the modal windows etc. Are you interested in a designer coming on board? my email is in my HN profile ;)
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good point. In fact, we are concerned about that quite a bit - so much so that we will soon be releasing details of how reconstructing somebody's email is close to impossible, even by the Quickly team. Basically, we are storing only patterns, not email content directly.
You're expecting people to take your word for it. Even if you're telling the truth, when your security is compromised, so are all your users' email, because you have full access to it. Bottom line: Yet another "web 2.x", proprietary, "beta," SaaS, subscription, third-party, unrestricted-privacy-compromising tool without a business model that might be around for a few years before being bought and ruined or going bank…
alphapapa, your points are indeed valid. And your alternative tech suggestions are quite close to what we are doing, while still protecting our code. Just hold on till we divulge more details :-)
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks, I have read pg's post and quite agree with it. I have tried to keep the voice as clear as possible but the Indian accent just pops up :-) Your suggestions are really useful. I will try to list out the benefits we have in mind on the website as well as write a post about it.
I see you are needing some design help on the modal windows etc. Are you interested in a designer coming on board? my email is in my HN profile ;)
great. Yes, we are trying to connect with designers. Will mail you.
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good point. In fact, we are concerned about that quite a bit - so much so that we will soon be releasing details of how reconstructing somebody's email is close to impossible, even by the Quickly team. Basically, we are storing only patterns, not email content directly.
You're expecting people to take your word for it. Even if you're telling the truth, when your security is compromised, so are all your users' email, because you have full access to it. Bottom line: Yet another "web 2.x", proprietary, "beta," SaaS, subscription, third-party, unrestricted-privacy-compromising tool without a business model that might be around for a few years before being bought and ruined or going bank…
> Seriously, it could be done [...] in a bit of Perl or Python [...] A few hours [...]
People said the same thing when dropbox was announced, look where we are now: very few people do it locally, and dropbox has won.
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're expecting people to take your word for it. Even if you're telling the truth, when your security is compromised, so are all your users' email, because you have full access to it. Bottom line: Yet another "web 2.x", proprietary, "beta," SaaS, subscription, third-party, unrestricted-privacy-compromising tool without a business model that might be around for a few years before being bought and ruined or going bank…
> Seriously, it could be done [...] in a bit of Perl or Python [...] A few hours [...] People said the same thing when dropbox was announced, look where we are now: very few people do it locally, and dropbox has won.
Thats so true rakoo,
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#29So, i a assume the collected Patterns will then be quickly's proprietary knowledge. Right?
Re: Quickly – Giving email a mind of its own [video]
#30So, i a assume the collected Patterns will then be quickly's proprietary knowledge. Right?
pretty much :-)
However, if u wish to opt out of the service, the data - which can be mapped to the user, will also be deleted. The primary ownership belongs to the users.