Amazon Fire Phone

Post by crucifiction » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:31 AM UTC

mcphilip wrote: post #278

nostromo wrote: post #120

The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

>If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, this will probably be a novelty, like Windows Phone, for a while to come. Agreed. I'm having trouble visualizing how it moves from being novelty to being ubiquitous. I purchased one of the original Kindles back when it was a novelty, but I understand why it became the dominant eInk device since it was a novelty item with little to no competition. For the Fire, it's a novelty…

Post by hrjet » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:40 AM UTC

personZ wrote: post #314

mwfunk wrote: post #291

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Their core business is that monetization, by definition. Making services that people like to use is what they do to feed that core business, not vice versa. They are constantly scrambling to find different ways to make money because they are a company run by extremely wealthy and intelligent people who would love for all of the great things they do to be in service of some core business other than selling targeted ad…

Their core business is that monetization, by definition. The NFL is primarily sponsored through network agreements, which themselves are primarily sponsored through advertisers. Is the "core business" of the NFL, then, advertising? Of course it isn't. Such an argument is specious to the point of uselessness, and only appears in the form of rhetoric. The NFL's core business is making an entertaining sports product tha…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 4:25 AM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #337

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It is worth mentioning that they are including a year of prime which is worth $99 and a $10 credit on their store so the actual price compared to say an iPhone is $90.

And if you already have Prime? Do they refund a year of your subscription?

Post by mje__ » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 4:47 AM UTC

cwyers wrote: post #284

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You aren't a soccer mom who loves Amazon and buys everything on there because it still saves them time (even if its 4 day free shipping). Amazon Mom says there's a huge market for this sort of stuff. These Mom's have phones. Imagine the point in time where anyone with a fire phone firefly's EVERYTHING they buy, before they buy it. Cheaper from Amazon, and free "2" day shipping? Killer feature. Never pay more again. F…

Amazon Prime Music is in no way, shape or form a comparable feature to Spotify. It's 1 million songs versus 20 million.

Post by Sxw1212 » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 4:58 AM UTC

Consultant32452 wrote: post #170

nostromo wrote: post #120

The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

This is interesting I think... iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4 I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the…