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Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Searching via photos is awesome, but the only use case it seems well suited for is shopping. If I was bitten by a snake, spider, etc. I'd love to be able to snap a picture to quickly identify it and know whether or not to rush to the ER.

Extra steps are always best in an emergency... ~~~ Spider: Have a painful bite on the house! User: "Spider say cheese!" User: "Amazon Phone is this spider poisonous" Amazon Phone: Searching. This Spider does appear to be poisonous. User: "Amazon Phone call Uber 911" Amazon Phone: Calling Uber 911 Uber 911: Can you collect the spider to take to the ER? User: "Yes, I'll do that"

To my knowledge, there aren't any North American spiders that would cause a "seconds count" type threat to your life. I suspect the way this normally works today is:

  Black Widow: Have a painful bite on the house!
  User: "Ouch!"  *slap*

  [one hour later]

  User: "Oh my god, I am in unimaginable pain."
  * User is driven to the hospital.
Or

  Brown Recluse: Have a painful bite on the house!
  User: "Ouch!"  *slap*

  [several hours later]

  User: This is starting to swell rather
        disturbingly, and smarts quite a bit.
  * User drives to their doctor
With snakes it's probably another mater. If a snake I could not identify bit me, I would be calling 911 first, and taking pictures afterwards before the ambulance arrived. If it's not a snake that I recognize as safe, then I wouldn't be taking the risk that it wasn't a venomous pet that escaped (since I can recognize the venomous snakes native to my region).

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#325

The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

This is interesting I think... iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4 I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the…

As the saying goes: Google wants to sell you, Amazon wants to sell you stuff, and Apple just wants your money.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#326

The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

I agree that the dynamic perspective and angle detection just seems like a gimmick.

The 2 serious uses for it I can see are:

* Scrolling through things by tilting the phone. Personally I think this seems like a useful feature.

* Playing certain mobile games.

For general use, I don't think it'd be that helpful or aesthetically appealing other than "oh that looks cool". I don't really see the purpose of it when looking at maps, or especially looking at your home screen... In fact I imagine many people may find it annoying in many of the phone views.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say 5x, are you considering the acquisition cost for each product sold, or the annual budget? Unless you only sell through Amazon, then a global comparison wouldn't be fair, because Google is semi-monopolist in ads while Amazon is far from it in retail. You should compare your average user acquisition cost with the wholesale margin left to Amazon; eg: how much does it cost to acquire through ads a user that…

> When you say 5x, are you considering the acquisition cost for each product sold, or the annual budget? When I say 5x, I mean Google gets 5x the amount of money than Amazon does. I think that is more relevant than a "per item" basis. > Unless you only sell through Amazon, then a global comparison wouldn't be fair, because Google is semi-monopolist in ads while Amazon is far from it in retail. It isn't my fault Amazo…

Don't forget -- Google will show ads to me when I go looking for a rake. Amazon will tell me "Sorry, we don't ship rakes to your country"

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#328
I would think that constantly tilting the screen will consantly change the view. And the reflections of the suroundings. Just when you have a good view of the screen, you need to change it in order to navigate.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#329
What sucks about this, and Android in general, is that if you have an app that uses Maps or Push or a bunch of other basic features, you have to write tricky duplicate code to make it work with both Amazon and Google's systems and jump through hoops to make it work on both devices. And it's getting worse with Google's moving more functionality into their proprietary Play Services lib.

You would think that Android's vaunted Intent system would be perfect for this, but Intents are basically dead for cross-system functionality, there few open Intents published with android.intent.action., a lot of the good stuff is published by google as com.android. (which should really be com.google.*) so you can't rely on it unless you know you're running on a google phone.

Google is not really working towards the interest of AOSP, it should be taken from Google's full control and placed under a neutral body so its full potential for developers can be realized.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#330

The trojan feature for Amazon is the eye-tracking. Tracking a user's gaze while they are shopping is the ultimate way to increase sales, and this extends to eye-tracking while a user is browsing. I imagine that even Google would want the information that Amazon is going to generate.

You shop while holding your phone in front of your face?

Mine's in my pocket when I'm at the store.

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