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Why does this seem to be targeted at Android? If anything, I would say the price differential between this and good android phones reflects that it might be more an iphone competitor if anything, and so it seems to be more targeted at Apple.
iPhone has the build quality though. This is rubber and glass, not metal. There's also a degree of app quality that iOS still has over Android - I'm an Android user: 'Secret', for example, only just came out, and it's very unstable. This is a mid-range smartphone at a premium price.
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#262The compelling feature on this phone everyone's missing: Let's say you have to browse through a bunch of stuff on your phone. The very moment you start doing this, you have a problem: There's a #%&! finger covering up the screen now! The idea behind this phone is simple: All browsing of information is done by tilting the screen, leaving the display completely unobstructed... sure, other phones have tried to do this b…
There's a #%&! finger covering up the screen now! Forgive me, but this was the first thing I thought of. (A collection of clips from television commercials for as-seen-on-tv gadgets, showing helpless ordinary people trying to do things like slice tomatoes, etc…) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08xQLGWTSag
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This is interesting I think... iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4 I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the…
Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. I see this a lot of HN, and I wonder if people are just assuming? To put it into context, I see far more ads on my iPad and iPad Touch than I ever have on my Nexus 5. Outside of the money Google makes from their book, video, and apps stores, they sell the technology to ensure that their services remain viable, and cannot be cut ou…
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This is interesting I think... iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4 I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the…
You make a good point: Apple: Sell at high price, modest tie-in revenue. Google: Sell at low price, modest tie-in revenue. Amazon: Sell at low price, high tie-in revenue. It does seem like Amazon is bound to win in the long run, based on pure economics, if this trend continues.
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Or you can uncheck the "Accelerate page loading" checkbox.
How many consumers do you honestly expect to know, recognize, and understand? I can tell you from experience 0 of the ones I've encountered outside the IT/Startup space were aware of that is what it does.
Not many, but more than would understand or care about the "man in the middle attack browser" argument.
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I agree. At a pure product level this isn't competitive with an iPhone. It's exclusive to ATT and apparently only available in the US but still priced to compete with the iPhone. They should have done something with sponsored data or subsidized it heavily for Prime customers, but as it stands this isn't a compelling offering in the market.
I agree with you here; I was really surprised by the price tag, considering that over the course of a 2-year contract you're on the hook for another $200 worth of prime membership to get the most out of the features. I'm already on the edge of cancelling my Prime membership because of the problems with "2-day" shipping turning in to "3-5 day" shipping thanks to UPS Surepost being complete garbage, and I already have…
Imagine the point in time where anyone with a fire phone firefly's EVERYTHING they buy, before they buy it. Cheaper from Amazon, and free "2" day shipping? Killer feature. Never pay more again.
Fairly powerful for price conscious customers. Add in Spotify at $10 a month, Netflix at $10 a month ($240 a year, over $500 over the life of a 2 year contract), and you are getting the entire phone for FREE if you already have Prime.
At total value, if you wanted to have a "similar" phone with similar streaming services and content providing, you'd be paying more than if you bought this $200 phone, with a data plan you most likely will already have.
Looking at it that way, Amazon is paying you to use their phone. Understanding how the Prime model works, this makes a shit load of sense.
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This is interesting I think... iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4 I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the…
You're saying that Amazon will be the big winner in the long run because they can control the phone, and the products you buy on Amazon? If I'm interpreting that correctly, I don't see how that holds. People use smartphones/tablets/televisions to consume many things. Amazon products are just one of them. I don't think that just because controlling the entire product ecosystem would work to Amazon's advantage means th…
If they can leverage that to reduce buying friction, then yes, that's exactly the right move!
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#269So hang on....are you telling me that $199 is the cheapest price WITH A CONTRACT?? Obviously things are different in the US,but in UK it's almost unfathomable to be paying anything for the phone if you are getting a contract. Sometimes the latest iphone will have an upfront cost of 29 pounds, but it's rare.
Here's EE's page for a 16GB iPhone 5s. Prices range from 9.99 to 149.99 depending on the plan chosen:
http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/iphone-5s-16g...
Look at the next model up, 32GB, and the up-front cost increases significantly:
http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/iphone-5s-32g...
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That is fine for the occasional bite, but what if I plan on being bitten regularly?
Use Amazon Prime to ship you anti-venom in 2 days.
Or else just use their "Subscribe and Save" system on this item.