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Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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I am always a little skeptical about gestures that involve physically moving or tilting or swivelling the phone. Maybe it works well for others but I find it getting very much in the way when I use my phone in bed, or lying around on the couch, or walking even. On my iPhone 5, I have the screen rotation locked for about 99% of the time.

I think the subtle tilt-to-scroll paradigm, if it works well, could become widely adopted. It seems to make one-handed scrolling much more approachable without any fingers obscuring content. Question: Does it seem like it requires the camera system to make it usable or could it be done reliably with just the accelerometers now common in smart phones?

They also need to know (z-axis) how far the face is away from the phone. So gyroscopes are not sufficient.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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There's a lot of info, but I can't find what the phone is made of. Using nice metal phones has convinced me never to buy a cheap plastic piece of junk again.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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post #36

I am always a little skeptical about gestures that involve physically moving or tilting or swivelling the phone. Maybe it works well for others but I find it getting very much in the way when I use my phone in bed, or lying around on the couch, or walking even. On my iPhone 5, I have the screen rotation locked for about 99% of the time.

Remember this is paired with Dynamic Perspective. So maybe we'll see it detects the orientation of your face before deciding on what to do.

What is the power usage of running 4 different cameras to do this?

I can't imagine it's small, so they must be not "always-on", which means there is some tradeoff here.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Mayday is actually a killer feature on a phone for Grandma. With 24/7 on-device tech support, relatives would never have to field tech support requests.

But would Grandma really want a phone like this?

Absolutely, the Grandma/Grandpa demographic has been clamoring for a headache inducing 3d, gestures requiring learnability, Dolby Digital Plus, app carousel, etc.. etc.. mobile phone.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

Why does this seem to be targeted at Android? If anything, I would say the price differential between this and good android phones reflects that it might be more an iphone competitor if anything, and so it seems to be more targeted at Apple.

iPhone has the build quality though. This is rubber and glass, not metal.

There's also a degree of app quality that iOS still has over Android - I'm an Android user: 'Secret', for example, only just came out, and it's very unstable.

This is a mid-range smartphone at a premium price.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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How is this remotely competitive in a world full of $179 Moto G's? $219 Moto G LTE's? Or even a $350 Nexus? This seems like a phone from two or three years ago where $650 for a non-premium brand would have been passable. I just bought a Moto G LTE for my wife and its a wonderful phone. I don't see what Amazon would bring to the table for an extra $420. That's almost 10 months of service right there.

I don't think it is. Except for people who buy on-contract and don't know better about the pricing and features compared to other phones. Heck, you're even stuck with Amazon's Silk browser... there's no Firefox or Chrome in the Amazon App Store... so most users can forget about syncing this with anything.

You can certainly side load applications so Firefox is not a problem and if you know what you're doing Chrome isn't either. Definitely less than ideal though.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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How about a stand that makes it easy to use the phone as a game console? (HDMI output for TV) With all of those front cameras, would it be workable to have motion sensing games?

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Sounds like this phone does a good job of solving Amazon's problem of getting customers to buy more from them. I don't see how it makes my life any easier though. 3D? Ok, that is really cool. 2D hasn't really been a limiting factor for me though. One-handed navigation and autoscrolling? Wow, that just sounds terrible. I'm trying to read and my kid bumps my arm. Now where am I on the page? And how do I quickly get bac…

Perhaps my consumer lifestyle strangely aligns Amazon's incentives with mine, but I'm actually really happy how they solved the problem of me buying more stuff from them. It seems that they observed very common patterns people already use poorly and streamlined them. Case in point, almost everyone I know takes pictures of books and items they want to buy or investigate further later. Currently this 1) clutters my Pho…

I agree about the mayday. One big reason why seniors buy the iphone is that there are classes in the apple store which help them learn to use the device and overcome their fear of tech.So mayday could work well here.

Also, many tech people hate coming home after work and doing tech support for their family. They could have a strong influence on their family members phone purchase decision.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

This is interesting I think...

iPad: Kindle Fire, Nexus 7

Apple TV: Kindle Fire TV, Chromecast

iTunes: Amazon Prime Streaming TV + now music, Google Play

iPhone: Kindle Fire Phone, Nexus 4

I think they're all playing for the same territory. The big difference seems to be that Apple really only sells the technology. Google sells the technology so that they can sell advertising for third party products. Amazon has the only complete end to end solution where they sell you the products and advertise for their own "other stuff" they sell. IMHO Amazon is going to be the big winner in the long run. Whether or not that's good for all of us is yet to be determined.

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