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Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Are you serious? What part of integrating computer vision as central to user experience is cloned from the iPhone?

The problem is that it's the only differentiator. For many users, their favorite apps aren't available on Amazon's appstore. Being so late means getting user traction will be hard without some amazing features. I don't see that from Amazon.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While looking at the product page, I thought: "So, I'm tied to Amazon and AT&T, and I'm paying for the privilege. How is this any better than my cheaper Nexus 5?" Also, isn't this going to be decimated by Google X's Project Tango? https://www.google.com/atap/projecttango/

So, they're going to use everyone's mobile phone to 3D map the entire world? Privacy advocates are going to scream, but roboticists are going to rejoice.

They're already building 3D virtual environments of roads/streets, which their self-driving cars use for navigation.

Sometimes, I wonder if Google is going to collectively vanish out of our universe once it has collected every piece of data that it can from this one.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#54

From my post in another thread: It's $199 with a 2 year contract with AT&T, meaning it's a $649 phone (now confirmed). It's priced with other 'premium' phones like the iPhone 5S and the Galaxy S5 (both $199 with a 2 year contract, $649 off contract at AT&T). Unfortunately, Amazon's other products like the Kindle Fire are anything but premium hardware and software-wise. On the software side this is partially due to th…

How is this remotely competitive in a world full of $179 Moto G's? $219 Moto G LTE's? Or even a $350 Nexus?

This seems like a phone from two or three years ago where $650 for a non-premium brand would have been passable. I just bought a Moto G LTE for my wife and its a wonderful phone. I don't see what Amazon would bring to the table for an extra $420. That's almost 10 months of service right there.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#55
post #7

This seems compelling if you're already sold on the Amazon ecosystem, but not terribly so if you're not -- especially at that price.

As an iPhone user, I already have access to the important parts of the Amazon ecosystem (books, music, movies, TV shows).

But I have a superior app store.

The only big feature I think could prove important is their live-chat help.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#56
post #50

From my post in another thread: It's $199 with a 2 year contract with AT&T, meaning it's a $649 phone (now confirmed). It's priced with other 'premium' phones like the iPhone 5S and the Galaxy S5 (both $199 with a 2 year contract, $649 off contract at AT&T). Unfortunately, Amazon's other products like the Kindle Fire are anything but premium hardware and software-wise. On the software side this is partially due to th…

You can also click the "Without a Service Plan" to see the price, $649.

I had typed this up before they announced the off-contract pricing in another thread and was quoting it here. The off-contract price was an assumption at that point.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#57
post #32

The Amazon Phone seems to capitalize on content consumption of text, audio, video, and the abstract (through purchases). In my mind, this is what the smart phone should be all about.

Well timed after prime music imports your itunes library.

no hairy workarounds to replace an iphone in your mac ecosystem, which is something google has not achieved.

(yes, other than apps, but that will follow)

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#58
Amazingly ambitious move by Amazon, which I have to respect. Yes, it will be extremely hard to take market share from Samsung and Apple, but there also hasn't been much innovation in the smart phone market recently, so the opportunity exists if Amazon takes a novel approach. Or maybe they just compete on price, as they have so many times before.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

#59
The compelling feature on this phone everyone's missing:

Let's say you have to browse through a bunch of stuff on your phone. The very moment you start doing this, you have a problem: There's a #%&! finger covering up the screen now!

The idea behind this phone is simple: All browsing of information is done by tilting the screen, leaving the display completely unobstructed... sure, other phones have tried to do this before. However, they were shit, because they didn't involve 4 years of AI research to develop the world's most sophisticated head positioning system ever, like Amazon apparently did. This is probably the only way to make the tilting accurate enough to not be annoying.

Only a company run by a fantically focused guy could put that much R&D towards such a specific and non-obvious feature.

That said, until I can hold the device in my hand and verify that this "tilt to browse information" is 100.00% perfectly implemented, this phone can still end up being a failure, like all similar devices that came before it.

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