The Internet is going to become a country-by-country intranet at this rate.
Canadian court ruling orders Google to block sites worldwide
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Re: Canadian court ruling orders Google to block sites worldwide
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it's often said around here that we should consider Google to be in the ad business, right ? Then following that logic Google is actually advertising illegal stuff by providing links to Morgan Jack's website on Google's own site. I am not convinced by that line of thoughts, though. > Telling Google to remove the links (worldwide!!) is like issuing an injunction against all restaurants the world over to stop sel…
To further the analogy - it would be like telling McDonalds to not sell food to this person but ignoring In'n'Out Burger and Burger King. I understand the point about forcing Google to stop sellin advertising to this person. I am confused about how a disappeared person continues to pay for services from Google; why didn't anyone get a court order to force Google to release information about the infringer? {edit: i di…
Google isn't selling advertising to him. Their only involvement as far as I can tell is that his sites show up in organic search results.
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#13This is insane. The plaintiff, Equustek Solutions Inc., says the main defendant, Morgan Jack, sells networking devices that infringe on their trademark. The defendant sells these things online; the plaintiff wants his websites to be dereferenced from Google. The court agreed and asked Google to remove the links on all its properties worldwide (not just google.ca). But what does Google have to do with this? Why does t…
Some part of me wonders what would happen if they were to turn off Google to Canada for a day and list the judge's phone number as the person to complain to.
(Probably one very angry judge, but I wonder...)
Re: Canadian court ruling orders Google to block sites worldwide
#14What happens to Google if they comply in all of Canada but do not comply for the rest of the world? It would be cheaper for Google to offer specialist SEO and web design help for these aggrieved parties - "here's how you get your story out and ranked higher than the attack sites" - than to fight legal cases through the courts. Although I am pleased thay're taking the cases to court to defend their position.
Google was the defendant in this case, so they had little choice but to go to court. Let alone the consequences to their Canadian business, US and Canadian courts cooperate in enforcing judgements, so they couldn't ignore it regardless. (Of course they are choosing to appeal, which is optional but obviously a good idea given the pain this precedent could cause.)
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#15This is insane. The plaintiff, Equustek Solutions Inc., says the main defendant, Morgan Jack, sells networking devices that infringe on their trademark. The defendant sells these things online; the plaintiff wants his websites to be dereferenced from Google. The court agreed and asked Google to remove the links on all its properties worldwide (not just google.ca). But what does Google have to do with this? Why does t…
Some part of me wonders what would happen if they were to turn off Google to Canada for a day and list the judge's phone number as the person to complain to. (Probably one very angry judge, but I wonder...)
Probably a lot of angry users, anti-trust proceedings, and a bunch of other stuff they don't want.
Re: Canadian court ruling orders Google to block sites worldwide
#16Not that new. Most of the DMCA take down notices are also executed worldwide.
Good point. Obviously Google does considerably more business in the US than Canada, but it's still bizarre for any one country's courts to make decisions that directly impact the entire world.
Maybe it's time for an international treaty on Internet regulation to spell out exactly what powers any given nation has. (Although such a thing would probably have the potential to go very wrong.)
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#17It's not only about free speech. Different cultural, social and economic conditions mean different countries live by different laws.
I don't know the circumstances of the case, but it seems plausible that given an opportunity a German, Emirati, Chinese or Brazilian court may reach a different conclusion as to the legality of Morgan Jack's business. Countries are known to have very different labor and copyright laws. It's plausible that some circumstances (e.g. mistreatment, authorship, limitations on copyright transferability, nuances and even legality of the contract the parties had entered) could make courts elsewhere consider Morgan Jack to be the rightful owner of the design.
What if such a court elsewhere made a contradictory ruling and also demanded from Google that it be enforced worldwide?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
To further the analogy - it would be like telling McDonalds to not sell food to this person but ignoring In'n'Out Burger and Burger King. I understand the point about forcing Google to stop sellin advertising to this person. I am confused about how a disappeared person continues to pay for services from Google; why didn't anyone get a court order to force Google to release information about the infringer? {edit: i di…
Google isn't selling advertising to him. Their only involvement as far as I can tell is that his sites show up in organic search results.
Thanks for the clarification!
I hadn't heard about this before today and doing a bit of research it sounds like something that has been going on for years - since at least 2007 - and there has been some really dodgy practice. (But I still don't see why Google is targeted here).
http://www.rudy2.com/datalink-equustek/
And it seems that Datalink have made some effort to clarify the situation: http://1770-kf3.com/
> We would like to clarify that DataLink no longer sell/promote the following Canadian manufacturer’s products. “Equustek Solutions Inc.’s products (www.equustek.com), as listed below, are no longer distributed by Datalink:”
DL2000 DL3500 DL4000 DL4500 DL6000 DL7000 EQ7000 DL-PC DL-PCI DL-PCIe DL-PC/104 DL-STED EQ-DCM
“Customers of these products should contact Equustek directly at the website above or toll free at 1-888-387-3787"
I don't know this area so I have no idea what I need to type into a search box to get a Datalink result turning up where I should be getting an Equustek result. (And I'm trying across different search engines).