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Announcing Unicode 7.0

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Re: Announcing Unicode 7.0

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't agree on your definition of fonts. When i write a letter i am certainly not painting rows of little pictures on a sheet of paper.

You are if you write hieroglyphics. From another point of view you are when you write English too.

So, putting poo into unicode is just the same as hieroglyphs? Or hebrew or arabic or chinese characters? Still don't agree.

Re: Announcing Unicode 7.0

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post #12

Do we really need small pictures in fonts?

I had the exact same question pop up in my mind after seeing the emoji's. I understand all characters can be considered nothing but pictures, but a thermometer, really? Is this used in any widespread language to be of significance to Unicode? Is Unicode trying to also offer some kind of clipart capability?

I think we've seen our fair share of derailed projects in IT. Unicode is certainly a very critical project, which makes its focus even more important.

Re: Announcing Unicode 7.0

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post #18

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Why not? It's not like every font of every typeface has to implement every Unicode code point. You'd probably only have one or two installed that have the emoji characters.

Because it's waste. Because if not every font implements it, what is the usefulness of it? Did you ever visit websites that use glyphs your font doesn't know? How would you use those pictures on a website, when you can't even guarantee the style of the picture, because it may be implemented differently or not at all. It just looks like a big waste for no good reason.

> Because it's waste.

Waste of what?

> Because if not every font implements it, what is the usefulness of it?

Most fonts only implements a fraction of unicode, is unicode a waste? Is cyrillic in unicode a waste? Is Cherokee? Braille symbols? Buginese and Meroitic cursive?

> Did you ever visit websites that use glyphs your font doesn't know?

Yes? The software will fall back on a font which does provide the glyphs, or display a block with the codepoint if it doesn't have any.

> How would you use those pictures on a website, when you can't even guarantee the style of the picture, because it may be implemented differently or not at all.

How would you use letters on a website, when you can't even guarantee the style of the letters, because it may be implemented differently or not at all?

Not only that, but unicode is not specific to websites for fuck's sake, not only will somebody find a use for them on websites even if you can't, somebody will definitely find a use for them outside of websites. Most (or all?) of the new emoji are inherited from windings[0] and webdings[1], they don't come out of nowhere.

> It just looks like a big waste for no good reason.

Again, a big waste of what?

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingdings

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings

Re: Announcing Unicode 7.0

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are if you write hieroglyphics. From another point of view you are when you write English too.

So, putting poo into unicode is just the same as hieroglyphs? Or hebrew or arabic or chinese characters? Still don't agree.

How are emoji different from other logograms?

Re: Announcing Unicode 7.0

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It also comes with a "No Piracy" emoji: https://twitter.com/xor/status/478797422496215040/photo/1

Is there an emoji for "Piracy"?

edit: Found elsewhere

>[...] another new character (#1F571) depicts the familiar skull and crossbones. It is labeled “skull and crossbones” too – no “Yes to Piracy” here.

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