today drug dealers use leet speak over SMS to communicate about transactions without triggering local LE detection
I didn't know that. Do you have a source for this information?
Where the term "Zero Day" comes from
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Re: Where the term "Zero Day" comes from
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't know that. Do you have a source for this information?
I wonder if this is just a retelling of the myth(?) that leet speak originated in the practice of renaming files to avoid detection by sysadmins.
Re: Where the term "Zero Day" comes from
#23Yeah, I've been curious for a while as to how "zero day" morphed into its current, completely unrelated non-sequitur meaning. I'm guessing it's more or less the same way "hacker" came to mean "computer criminal"--buncha noobs parroting actual hackers' lingo without understanding, in hopes of seeming cool.
I wouldn't call the current usage a non-sequitur. Zero-day exploits being those in use before the vendor and general public have been made aware of them. Presumably, a 1 day exploit would be one published on the day the vulnerability was announced. It seems like a fairly natural application of what was, at the time, a pretty well understood terminology.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember using Toneloc during that time to wardial entire exchanges looking for dialup modems into servers. I wonder how many people I annoyed with getting phone calls in the middle of the night with my 14.4 modem screeching in their ear.
ToneLoc author here (mthreat), checking in, 20 years after the release of the last version. I didn't manage to avoid the federal prison part, but somehow ended up fine in the end. My path, roughly: BBSes -> saw WarGames -> wannabe hacker -> warez boards (Public Enemy) -> cracking games (learned x86 asm) -> hacking voicemail boxes -> wrote ToneLoc (learned C) -> real hacking -> COSMOS access -> physical hacking (burgl…
Re: Where the term "Zero Day" comes from
#26And if you didn't have 16550AFN serial and a USR Courier HST your 0-day was likely to turn into a 3-day... I remember taking advantage of call waiting tones to dump friends offline and steal their places on local multi-user BBS. Good days!
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember using Toneloc during that time to wardial entire exchanges looking for dialup modems into servers. I wonder how many people I annoyed with getting phone calls in the middle of the night with my 14.4 modem screeching in their ear.
ToneLoc author here (mthreat), checking in, 20 years after the release of the last version. I didn't manage to avoid the federal prison part, but somehow ended up fine in the end. My path, roughly: BBSes -> saw WarGames -> wannabe hacker -> warez boards (Public Enemy) -> cracking games (learned x86 asm) -> hacking voicemail boxes -> wrote ToneLoc (learned C) -> real hacking -> COSMOS access -> physical hacking (burgl…
Re: Where the term "Zero Day" comes from
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't call the current usage a non-sequitur. Zero-day exploits being those in use before the vendor and general public have been made aware of them. Presumably, a 1 day exploit would be one published on the day the vulnerability was announced. It seems like a fairly natural application of what was, at the time, a pretty well understood terminology.
The problem is, current usage seems to be to use 'zero day' as a synonym for 'just released' when speaking about vulnerabilities, which I agree is wrong. A '0day' by definition will not be known about by the public, so cannot feature in a public announcement.