11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan • Hacker News Board

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by windsurfer » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:09 PM UTC

bluthru wrote: post #16

sergiotapia wrote: post #7

Compared to DigitalOcean: RAM - Processor - HD - Transfer Linode 1GB - 1 Core - 24GB SSD - 2TB DigitalOcean 1GB - 1 Core - 30GB SSD - 2TB Very compelling pricing, I may actually migrate a pet project of mine to Linode because they have a more robust support system. Now all they need to do is accept Paypal payments because I live in a third world country and do not own an international credit card.

Is there a meaningful difference in CPUs?

Both Linode and DO use a variety of CPUs, and make upgrades all the time for their host machines, and your individual speed can vary as other VMs on the host use more and less CPU power.

That being said, Linode gives you access to as many cores as available on the host. In my case, I have 8 cores available, while DO restricts the number of cores available to guests based on plans (starting at 1 core).

Another thing to consider is: If your jobs are typically CPU-limited, it's probably not best to use virtual hosting at all. Dedicated machines would be far more economical for you.

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by agwa » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:10 PM UTC

xienze wrote: post #14

ausjke wrote: post #6

Have been a satisfied customer with Linode for 7 years. Now I can move my testing site to this new $10/m plan. Meanwhile I'm slightly concerned about the future quality from Linode, as low-priced $10 plan will certainly get lots of customers, but it may also bring down quality from Linode. Popularity normally plays against quality, I hope I am wrong.

> Meanwhile I'm slightly concerned about the future quality from Linode, as low-priced $10 plan will certainly get lots of customers They've had a $10 plan for a looong time. It's just recently that they got rid of it, and now it's back.

No, $20/month has always been their least-expensive plan. In fact, caker (their founder) was adamant for a very long time against creating a less-expensive plan.

(I've been customer for 9 years, and have occasionally hung out in their forums where caker also hangs out.)

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by general_failure » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:12 PM UTC

mcescalante wrote: post #10

Does anybody have a good comparison or story of why Linode is "more reliable" than DO? I've read the simple "Digital Ocean vs. Linode" stuff posted here, but it never offers any quantitative insight as to why people find Linode more reliable. Anecdotes encouraged :)

I have only good experience with both. My linode (internet exposed) server has been running for almost 7 years now. My DO server (also internet exposed) is ~2 years old. These days I would spin up a DO by default because I am sucker for SSD. I might switch back to defaulting to linode with this new pricing. linode has a fantastic irc channel. Plus linode has IPv6 support which DO has promised _years_ ago. Just hop on and the linode guys help you out immediately.

I don't think you can go wrong with either for medium sized companies (< 100).

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by xienze » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:15 PM UTC

agwa wrote: post #22

xienze wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Meanwhile I'm slightly concerned about the future quality from Linode, as low-priced $10 plan will certainly get lots of customers They've had a $10 plan for a looong time. It's just recently that they got rid of it, and now it's back.

No, $20/month has always been their least-expensive plan. In fact, caker (their founder) was adamant for a very long time against creating a less-expensive plan. (I've been customer for 9 years, and have occasionally hung out in their forums where caker also hangs out.)

You sure about that? I'm almost positive they've had a $10 plan before. When I signed up a few years ago I needed 1GB of RAM and the cheapest plan only had 512MB. I ended up paying $20 (well, $19.95 or whatever it was) and still do. Up until just recently my plan has always been the "one step up" plan from entry level. It was only with the "we doubled everything" announcement that they got rid of the plan below mine.

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by rogerdpack » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:17 PM UTC

windsurfer wrote: post #21

bluthru wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a meaningful difference in CPUs?

Both Linode and DO use a variety of CPUs, and make upgrades all the time for their host machines, and your individual speed can vary as other VMs on the host use more and less CPU power. That being said, Linode gives you access to as many cores as available on the host. In my case, I have 8 cores available, while DO restricts the number of cores available to guests based on plans (starting at 1 core). Another thing t…

The blog mentions that these $10 plans are on the "new" hardware, which, AFAICT, doesn't allow access to shared [unused] cores on the host anymore, so you really do have only 1 core max. FWIW. They're said to be nice speedy cores, though I've never tried one myself.

Anyway, it's nice to see linode finally come down in their price point, thank goodness for competition, they're obviously responding to DO with this move. Unfortunately the $5 DO is good enough for me [SSD makes is so that swap time is less painful if I temporarily max out the RAM] so, alas, will be sticking with DO for now :|

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by itisssdmyman » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:24 PM UTC

general_failure wrote: post #23

mcescalante wrote: post #10

Does anybody have a good comparison or story of why Linode is "more reliable" than DO? I've read the simple "Digital Ocean vs. Linode" stuff posted here, but it never offers any quantitative insight as to why people find Linode more reliable. Anecdotes encouraged :)

I have only good experience with both. My linode (internet exposed) server has been running for almost 7 years now. My DO server (also internet exposed) is ~2 years old. These days I would spin up a DO by default because I am sucker for SSD. I might switch back to defaulting to linode with this new pricing. linode has a fantastic irc channel. Plus linode has IPv6 support which DO has promised _years_ ago. Just hop on…

Linode recently converted to SSD as well.

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by gtaylor » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:26 PM UTC

NYCHacker wrote: post #18

how does Linode compare to Amazon AWS?

Apples to oranges. AWS's main appeal isn't VMs (EC2), it's the huge portfolio of other services you can make use of.

Linode is more of a VM host with a few also-ran services that they are experimenting with (Load Balancing).

If all you need is somewhere to host a cheap VM, go Linode. If you want to make use of a larger collection of services (that you don't have to maintain) to build applications on, AWS may be worth a look.

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by kukkukb » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:32 PM UTC

mcescalante wrote: post #10

Does anybody have a good comparison or story of why Linode is "more reliable" than DO? I've read the simple "Digital Ocean vs. Linode" stuff posted here, but it never offers any quantitative insight as to why people find Linode more reliable. Anecdotes encouraged :)

I can only give you anecdotal evidence on two Linodes we use:

  root@web1:~# uname -a
  Linux web1.netstock.co 3.9.3-x86-linode52 #1 SMP Mon May 20 09:32:28 EDT 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
  root@web1:~# uptime
   15:29:46 up 328 days, 13:16,  4 users,  load average: 0.30, 0.15, 0.12

and

  root@li346-160:~# uname -a
  Linux li346-160 3.7.5-linode48 #1 SMP Thu Jan 31 14:40:54 EST 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
  root@li346-160:~# uptime
   15:31:11 up 487 days, 11:10,  6 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.09, 0.07

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by rogerdpack » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:35 PM UTC

mcescalante wrote: post #10

Does anybody have a good comparison or story of why Linode is "more reliable" than DO? I've read the simple "Digital Ocean vs. Linode" stuff posted here, but it never offers any quantitative insight as to why people find Linode more reliable. Anecdotes encouraged :)

pingdom reports a 99.98% uptime for my DO box (8min of downtime in the last month). To a commercial user that may be unacceptable, but it's great for a $5 box for me :)

Re: 11th Linode Birthday, $10 Linode plan

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Post by noir_lord » Mon, Jun 16, 2014, 3:38 PM UTC

xienze wrote: post #24

agwa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, $20/month has always been their least-expensive plan. In fact, caker (their founder) was adamant for a very long time against creating a less-expensive plan. (I've been customer for 9 years, and have occasionally hung out in their forums where caker also hangs out.)

You sure about that? I'm almost positive they've had a $10 plan before. When I signed up a few years ago I needed 1GB of RAM and the cheapest plan only had 512MB. I ended up paying $20 (well, $19.95 or whatever it was) and still do. Up until just recently my plan has always been the "one step up" plan from entry level. It was only with the "we doubled everything" announcement that they got rid of the plan below mine.

Been a linode user since 2009, they have definitely not offered a plan less than $20 in that time.