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Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#31
Mostly insightful, but this bit:

Those who criticize the behavior of "greedy Wall Street bankers" underestimate their tendency to do the same thing if offered an eight-figure salary.

You have to be greedy to go into Wall Street banking in the first place. Most of us deliberately didn't become bankers because we aren't motivated by greed. This makes bankers fair game for criticism.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#32
This is extremely insightful and applies to a lot of industries:

I've learned that we can't tell the difference between luck and skill. Out of millions of investors, a few will be phenomenally successful due to luck alone, yet no one is willing to admit they are one of the lucky ones.

I recall reading this statement written in different words in a few articles and essays from PG and others.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

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post #31

Mostly insightful, but this bit: Those who criticize the behavior of "greedy Wall Street bankers" underestimate their tendency to do the same thing if offered an eight-figure salary. You have to be greedy to go into Wall Street banking in the first place. Most of us deliberately didn't become bankers because we aren't motivated by greed. This makes bankers fair game for criticism.

No, the point stands.

Especially because you don't need to be a Wall Street banker to do just like them. They just have more power, but people should consider their actions regardless of salary.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

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> I've learned that there's a strong correlation between knowledge and humility. People who spend 10 minutes on Google studying monetary policy think they have it all figured out, while people with Ph.D.s and decades of experience throw up their hands in frustration. The more you study economics, the more you realize how little we know about it. This is the problem with Congress making decisions about science, the in…

what decisions about science would you be referring to?

A lot of legislation cannot be approach scientifically, e.g. the right taxes rates, etc. Other legislation can be very scientific, e.g. is marijuana dangerous?

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

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post #13
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> I've learned that there's a strong correlation between knowledge and humility. People who spend 10 minutes on Google studying monetary policy think they have it all figured out, while people with Ph.D.s and decades of experience throw up their hands in frustration. The more you study economics, the more you realize how little we know about it. This is the problem with Congress making decisions about science, the in…

what decisions about science would you be referring to?

Funding, regulations, educational policy etc

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#36
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I disagree with this one: I've learned that Winston Churchill was right when he said, "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing -- after they've tried everything else." Congress is a basket case 99% of the time, but when things are truly at the precipice it gets things done. The "right" thing is pretty subjective, and I would argue that if we were doing the "right" things, we could have avoided a parti…

> I've learned that short-term thinking is at the root of most of our problems Greedy (aka "short-term thinking") algorithms provide optimal solutions for many (but not all (obviously)) problems.

It sounds like you've missed the point - yes the optimal solution short term might be one action, but sometimes losing in the short term is more optimal in the long term. Like say, a vote for socialism reduces a companies profits but retains the humanity of government in the long term (made up example obv.).

Moreover, long term solutions encompass the solution space of short term ones - so if short term thinking is required then you can choose the short-term thinking solution that optimises for the long view outcome.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#37
"Most of what people worried about over the last five years -- inflation, rising interest rates, a double-dip recession, stagnant markets, Greece leaving the euro, a government default -- never occurred."

Why? Because the reason most people are worried is based on something that they've read which is often because of this:

"I've learned that journalists' need to write far exceeds the number of things that need to be written."

The root of all opinion is generally what people are exposed to and what is written by a third party (not even an expert) as opposed to what they have actually figured out independently on their own or heard from multiple experts (who may have differing opinions). In other words their bias doesn't come from experience or informed opinion but merely what they are read that others have written.

That's why polls are not as important as they look. Even if accurate they merely measure what people read in the paper, online, or see on the nightly news.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#38

I don't think it's true that "The country is richer than it's ever been." According to this graph, that would be in 1999, not now. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Median_US...

I think the author is probably talking about total wealth, not median income; by that metric, we're richer than in 1999 (though it is less equally distributed), according to this graph: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Graphic.png

But whether we go with total wealth or median income, really the point here is the following sentence in the article: I don't think it's as happy as it's ever been.

I think the author is taking the long view here, not comparing the present to 1999 or 2009. The claim is that despite having more wealth (by either measure) in the last, say, 20 years than at any other period in our history, we aren't happier because of it. I'm inclined to agree.

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#39
post #4

> I've learned that there's a strong correlation between knowledge and humility. People who spend 10 minutes on Google studying monetary policy think they have it all figured out, while people with Ph.D.s and decades of experience throw up their hands in frustration. The more you study economics, the more you realize how little we know about it. This is the problem with Congress making decisions about science, the in…

Who would you expect to do better than Congress in making those decisions, and through what process would they jointly make those decisions? (I'm genuinely curious, because I can think of three or four different ways to go in policy-making to respond to your concerns, but I think I'll understand your point better if I thoughtfully read your suggestion about different approaches to making decisions about those issues.…

I like the question you are posing.

Parent comment is interesting given this regarding the internet:

(per wikipedia)

"In 1992, the U.S. Congress passed the Scientific and Advanced-Technology Act, 42 U.S.C. § 1862(g), which allowed NSF to support access by the research and education communities to computer networks which were not used exclusively for research and education purposes, thus permitting NSFNET to interconnect with commercial networks.[47][48] This caused controversy within the research and education community, who were concerned commercial use of the network might lead to an Internet that was less responsive to their needs, and within the community of commercial network providers, who felt that government subsidies were giving an unfair advantage to some organizations"

Obviously Congress doesn't always get it right. Edit: This was a case where they did, right?

But a blanket "that's the problem" make no sense either.

I'm reminded of this every time I see a "man on the street" interview talk about the issue of the day in which is their opinion seems to be formed from something they overhead from someone in the coffee shop or something they read in the local paper. Because for sure we just want those people using their great data source to form policy. I mean why don't we just vote on each and every issue out there. Because ordinary people are definitely qualified to digest and come to the right conclusion. (Or better yet hey just crowdsource or wisdom of the crowds because it's the answer to everything).

Re: I’m Just Now Realizing How Stupid We Are

#40

> I've learned that people are twice as biased as they think they are, which is precisely why biases are dangerous. This is a bit backwards. It's more like an inverse relationship - if you don't think you have any biases you are likely to be the most biased. It's probably a factor of 2 for those who admit a level of bias, and a much greater factor for those who don't admit bias.

Well technically, there would be no multiplicative factor for those who don't admit bias, because zero times anything would be zero. Your point is nonetheless a good one.
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