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Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#51
post #35

It would be funnier if the bitcoin exchanges blocked those blockchains as having been permanently compromised. It would prevent the feds from having an incentive to seize bitcoins.

> It would prevent the feds from having an incentive to seize bitcoins. No it wouldn't. Law enforcement seizes to deprive criminals of gain from illicit activities, not to make a profit. They sell because they can. It also wouldn't be funny. The US Marshall's service is doing what it is supposed to. If you have problems with federal law enforcement try a country that lacks a professional police force.

> If you have problem with federal law enforcement try a country that lacks a professional police force.

Genius statements like these are why I read HN!

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#52
post #28

I love this part: The USMS will not transfer bitcoins to an obscene public address, a public address apparently in a country restricted by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), a public address apparently associated with terrorism, other criminal activities, or otherwise hostile to the United States. So, be sure to pre-calculate your auction-winning vanity-address to be some simple transformation of your obsce…

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Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#53

Could someone explain the logic behind the price drop? Is that related to the fact that those 30k will be sold below the standard price? For some reason it seems counter-intuitive for me, since the money connected to those coins have been already paid once (whether for mining them or via exchange). So in practice it's more like they've been actually paid for ~twice now, so the effect "should" be opposite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

Increasing supply always reduces the market price.

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#54

Surely this creates precedent of US government recognised legitimacy? While it might hurt the markets in the short run, i reckon it'll overall help bitcoin as a currency in the long term.

It does nothing of the sort. All this does is confirm that Bitcoin is property that can be sold which is exactly what the government has said previously.

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#55
post #13

This seems insane. Shouldn't it be cheaper and more efficient to just sell them on an exchange or something? (Over time, even, rather than all at once, obviously.) "Let's sell them all in blocks of 3000 and require a deposit of $200k to bid" ... yeah ...

If you were the US Marshals, would you entrust the government's money[1] to an unregulated Bitcoin exchange? [1] As to whether the government is morally, ethically, or legally entitled to the seized properties, I have no opinion. I don't know anything about the situation.

The government doesn't see Bitcoin as money. Instead it's just selling seized property like it always does.

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#56
post #35

It would be funnier if the bitcoin exchanges blocked those blockchains as having been permanently compromised. It would prevent the feds from having an incentive to seize bitcoins.

That's a sword that cuts both ways. If you infrastructure for that kind of filtering became pervasive, you can be sure that government would be dictating which coins (transaction outputs) are compromised and which are clean.

Luckily a fork of Bitcoin that included these filter mechanism is unlikely to succeed. Let's keep law enforcement on a separate layer, we didn't put it into TCP either.

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#57

Could someone explain the logic behind the price drop? Is that related to the fact that those 30k will be sold below the standard price? For some reason it seems counter-intuitive for me, since the money connected to those coins have been already paid once (whether for mining them or via exchange). So in practice it's more like they've been actually paid for ~twice now, so the effect "should" be opposite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand Increasing supply always reduces the market price.

But the supply hasn't increased. These bitcoins existed prior to the offer of sale. The only thing that increased was the free float.

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#58
Isn't this a bit presumptuous?

Ross William Ulbricht hasn't yet been convicted of anything. I know that they aren't selling his personal bitcoins, but in the (highly unlikely) event that he is found innocent, wouldn't that mean that the Silk Road assets need to be returned to him? How then can they sell them now?

Re: For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins

#60
post #21
post #6

Anyone care to take a guess as to how will this affect Bitcoin price?

It will only serve to legitimize bitcoin if anything causing a possible increase in price and won't directly affect the price through the sale.

* price goes up * price goes down * price stays the same * anything else happens

"THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR BITCOIN!!"

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