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Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Is this surprising to anyone, structurally it is exactly the same as the mortgage issue in 2009 with Freddie and Fannie. The government finances the lending of money (by absorbing the risk) and gives banks money at a few percent which they loan out at 5 - 6% or more. You combine that with for profit universities which have discovered that the bank and their interests are aligned, they charge what ever they want for tuition, the banks make sure the students can get that in the form of guaranteed loans and non-dismissable loans, and the students play their part by putting themselves into indentured servitude. There is no other way for this to play out.

I've written my congress critters and suggested they notify the banks that they are going to make loans dischargable in bankruptcy in 4 years, they are going to change the guarantee to be 60 cents to the dollar. Its going to get very very painful.

Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Parts of this article bother me.

Let's say that banks could set rates based on risk and this did force lower quality colleges to reduce their tuition. Those colleges would bring in less revenue and program quality would likely suffer, possibly resulting in a feedback loop. Meanwhile, ivy league universities that are funded primarily by endowments would be able to raise their tuition without burdening their students, who would be able to afford larger loans given that they would be paying lower interest rates. In short, rich schools get negligibly richer while poor schools get significantly poorer. More importantly, Ivy league program quality would not improve significantly while lower tier college programs would spiral downwards.

If the goal is to promote quality education, the current system lets ivy league students subsidy lower tier college students to some extent. It makes more tuition dollars available to institutions that depend entirely on tuition at the price of restricting tuition dollars available to institutions that are less reliant on them. The status quo has significant advantages over what this article proposes. Higher default-rates are a problem, but the lesser of several evils (unless you happen to be a banker).

North of the border, university tuition is subsidied by provincial governments and regulated by them as well. It varies from province to province, but average tuition in Canada is far lower than it is in the U.S.. In most provinces, tuition is still expensive enough to be considered an investment, but cheap enough that thrifty living, summer jobs, and a minor scholarship or two can see you through undergrad without debt. It's a different approach that's worth considering.

Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Is this surprising to anyone, structurally it is exactly the same as the mortgage issue in 2009 with Freddie and Fannie. The government finances the lending of money (by absorbing the risk) and gives banks money at a few percent which they loan out at 5 - 6% or more. You combine that with for profit universities which have discovered that the bank and their interests are aligned, they charge what ever they want for t…

That's not how the system works anymore. FFEL which was the government guaranteed but bank issued student loans was ended in 2010. Now almost all student loans are made directly by the government (Stafford, PLUS, & Perkins), with a small rump private student loan industry. Those loans are non-dischargeable but not government guaranteed.

If this had been an actual article rather than a puff piece for SoFi, presumably that would have been made that a lot clearer.

Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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So kids that can't afford/qualify for a top school would also face much higher student loan interest rates. Humm... that doesn't seem that much different from "tax the poor" style of economics.

Perhaps schools with a lower default rate should get a higher interest rate... the banks are leaving money on the table. Students attending schools with a higher default rate should get the lowest rate and more government support (grants/bursaries/scholarships).

Or perhaps the student loan "industry" should not be focused on how to make the most money from students. It should be focused on higher graduation rates, higher paying employment for graduates, and perhaps even employment in strategic fields (i.e. increase the amount of loans available for engineering, compsci, whatever fields will be important in 10 to 20 years).

And private industry (aka the banks) should not be in the business of student loans at all. It should be 100% government funded and run, with the goal of being a non-profit. It's hard for me to see any added value that private industry brings to the table for it's "share of the profits" (do they help sell a student on getting a loan? is servicing/tracking a loan so complex that the gov't couldn't easily run a loan servicing application?).

Profit is the incorrect incentive for student loans (again it should be graduation rates, higher paying employment, perhaps even employment in strategic fields).

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Parts of this article bother me. Let's say that banks could set rates based on risk and this did force lower quality colleges to reduce their tuition. Those colleges would bring in less revenue and program quality would likely suffer, possibly resulting in a feedback loop. Meanwhile, ivy league universities that are funded primarily by endowments would be able to raise their tuition without burdening their students,…

College tuition has been rising much faster than inflation for probably 20 years now. That together with your example of Canada shows that it's still quite possible to offer a good education at a lower price.

If you want to help the poorer schools out, it's probably better to just give them money. It seems probable to me that the political desire to give every student a full loan to any college (for equality!) is one of two or three primary causes of tuition (and university spending and such) going crazy.

Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Only if Mr. Obama would stay out of education market half the problems would get solved automatically.

Few NBA players make million dollars a year. But that does not mean if government provides cheaper loans for basketball training it would produce more millionaires or even increase overall quality living.

If government meddles in education, forces banks to give cheaper loans it only means one thing. A big "Student Loan Bubble".

Re: Why The Student Loan Market Is Insane

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Parts of this article bother me. Let's say that banks could set rates based on risk and this did force lower quality colleges to reduce their tuition. Those colleges would bring in less revenue and program quality would likely suffer, possibly resulting in a feedback loop. Meanwhile, ivy league universities that are funded primarily by endowments would be able to raise their tuition without burdening their students,…

And yet in much of Europe (or at least where I'm from), colleges where you pay tuition are considered substandard whereas colleges without tuition are considered high quality.

Mostly to do with the expectation that if you pay tuition they will make bloody certain you get that degree, whereas colleges without tuition fail some 50% of their students.

Hell, Universities don't even want to accept tuition-based colleges under their umbrella because the quality just isn't there.

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Parts of this article bother me. Let's say that banks could set rates based on risk and this did force lower quality colleges to reduce their tuition. Those colleges would bring in less revenue and program quality would likely suffer, possibly resulting in a feedback loop. Meanwhile, ivy league universities that are funded primarily by endowments would be able to raise their tuition without burdening their students,…

And yet in much of Europe (or at least where I'm from), colleges where you pay tuition are considered substandard whereas colleges without tuition are considered high quality. Mostly to do with the expectation that if you pay tuition they will make bloody certain you get that degree, whereas colleges without tuition fail some 50% of their students. Hell, Universities don't even want to accept tuition-based colleges u…

This just seems bizarre to me. How can state funded schools compete for good professors with rich private schools?
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