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Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

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Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

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post #91

I wonder why they're not using Cloudflare.

I don't know anything about Cloudflare, but isn't using a CDN with dynamic web-apps difficult? Sure you can host static content like javascript, CSS, images, etc. but caching stuff like what feeds, articles, etc. you've read can't be easy or efficient for a CDN.

They provide more than just a CDN. They manage your DNS so there are many more things they can do to deflect attacks.

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#112
post #108

I wonder why nearly every self-hosted alternative RSS-reader here is a web-app; isn't using a desktop-application desirable? Like Firefox, Thunderbird, Liferea[1], Akregator[2], and probably lots of OS X applications? [1] http://lzone.de/liferea/ [2] http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/akregator/

So much of what you're reading in RSS-reader is web content, naturally you'd want to click through things in your existing browsing experience. At least that's how I view it. I'd like to use a desktop-app but find myself never opening running it and instead jumping to feedly/google-reader etc. I'd really like to have a desktop-app w/o web service that sync'ed to my phone which I also like to read rss on.

My solution was (and still is) using Pocket[1] to read. I absolutely hate reading on laptop/desktop. I instead check out the feeds every so often using a desktop reader (elfeed nowadays, but seeking for sth. else as I'm no longer using Emacs), and save those I want to read to Pocket. This way I do not need an app that syncs my feeds on each device I have, but rather only Pocket on each of them.

[1] http://getpocket.com/

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#113
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's like saying bodyguards are a protection racket because muggers and assassins exist. Yes, it sucks to have to pay for defense, but that doesn't mean the problem is your defense vendor's fault, or that said vendor has done anything wrong at all.

I don't think anyone has a problem with offering defense services. The problem lies in that CloudFlare is helping to create the problem. It would be analogous to your bodyguard constantly hiring hitmen to make attempts at your life.

Are you actually claiming that CloudFlare is paying for DDoS attacks, or is that a really poor metaphor?

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#114
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much of what you're reading in RSS-reader is web content, naturally you'd want to click through things in your existing browsing experience. At least that's how I view it. I'd like to use a desktop-app but find myself never opening running it and instead jumping to feedly/google-reader etc. I'd really like to have a desktop-app w/o web service that sync'ed to my phone which I also like to read rss on.

Multiple devices is the main reason I rely on a web service.

That's why I read RSS via IMAP. All of my devices have an IMAP client on them. I have a script which downloads RSS feeds and sends an email to me for each item, which is then filtered into a News folder via a Sieve filter. I spend half my time in my email clients anyway so I may as well get my RSS fix in the same place.

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

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post #108

I wonder why nearly every self-hosted alternative RSS-reader here is a web-app; isn't using a desktop-application desirable? Like Firefox, Thunderbird, Liferea[1], Akregator[2], and probably lots of OS X applications? [1] http://lzone.de/liferea/ [2] http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/akregator/

Because people want to sync their feeds and their current reading state across multiple devices (desktop, laptop, tablet, phone...). I also read my feeds somewhat sporadically: Since RSS usually only contains the last ~10 entries I would need to open my feed reader at least once a week to avoid missing an article.

I don't think I'm an RSS power user since I mostly use it for comics (~30), some techblogs and a couple of tumblr feeds.

I'm currently using bazqux[1] since it is fast and has a no-frills interface.

[1] https://bazqux.com

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#116

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Any suggestions on the best RSS reader to self-host?

Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'd like to suggest NewsBlur[1]. [1] https://github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur

I didn't dare to install it on my machines since there are a lot of requirements.... I went the paid route instead.

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#117
post #71

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I've been using Digg Reader for a while and I'm actually kind of shocked that most people haven't moved to that. It has its bugs (sometimes showing incorrect numbers, the mobile app locks up sometimes), but it's honestly the best alternative that I've found so far. Maybe it has to do with its free-ness, as people worry about them shutting doors like Google Reader, but if you're looking for a free solution then I'd de…

I was a very happy Digg Reader user for a while, but the bugs just kept getting worse and worse, and I jumped ship. Now I'm on BazQux, which works very, very well and very, very quickly, but has no mobile version and a design straight out of 1996.

And it's written in Haskell. Which makes me want to take a look at Haskell again :)

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#118
post #108

I wonder why nearly every self-hosted alternative RSS-reader here is a web-app; isn't using a desktop-application desirable? Like Firefox, Thunderbird, Liferea[1], Akregator[2], and probably lots of OS X applications? [1] http://lzone.de/liferea/ [2] http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/akregator/

So much of what you're reading in RSS-reader is web content, naturally you'd want to click through things in your existing browsing experience. At least that's how I view it. I'd like to use a desktop-app but find myself never opening running it and instead jumping to feedly/google-reader etc. I'd really like to have a desktop-app w/o web service that sync'ed to my phone which I also like to read rss on.

It can provide "your existing browsing experience" without being a web app: by running as a browser extension locally.

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

#119
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone has a problem with offering defense services. The problem lies in that CloudFlare is helping to create the problem. It would be analogous to your bodyguard constantly hiring hitmen to make attempts at your life.

Are you actually claiming that CloudFlare is paying for DDoS attacks, or is that a really poor metaphor?

Perhaps a poor metaphor in your opinion. I don't believe, nor did I claim, CloudFlare themselves is carrying out DDoS attacks. What they _are_ doing is making it way easier for others to do it.

So, perhaps more to your liking would be selling armed guard services to guard against a gang robbery, while simultaneously funding and supporting (but not actually participating in, i.e. not actually providing people for) said gang.

Re: Feedly gets hit by DDoS attack, refuses to give in to blackmail

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post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you actually claiming that CloudFlare is paying for DDoS attacks, or is that a really poor metaphor?

Perhaps a poor metaphor in your opinion. I don't believe, nor did I claim, CloudFlare themselves is carrying out DDoS attacks. What they _are_ doing is making it way easier for others to do it. So, perhaps more to your liking would be selling armed guard services to guard against a gang robbery, while simultaneously funding and supporting (but not actually participating in, i.e. not actually providing people for) sai…

I confess I'm not very familiar with CloudFlare -- in what way are they making it easier to carry out a DDoS?
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