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With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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> Basically when this technology comes of age we'll see smart phones reach the order of terabytes of storage. Looking forward to carrying the library of congress, netflix's entire catalog, and all of openstreetmap on my phone in the next 5 years.

This means we might be able to make a literal version of the hitchhikers guide. All of human knowledge in your hand, no network connectivity needed.

> I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices [of copyright attorneys and trade industry groups] suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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I so much want this to be true, I can't wait for it. Not having a layered memory architecture means no VM, everything has be rethought from the filesystem down. On a related note: "Operating systems have not been taught what to do with all of this memory, and HP will have to get very creative." Anyone knows what this could possibly mean?

Well, you wouldn't have to save files. You could just use a data structure in main memory because it's non-volatile. But how would you share data between programs when there's no disk? And you could execute binaries directly from storage without "loading" them into memory first. But you'd have to keep an original copy somewhere in case it modifies itself as it runs.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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> Most applications written in the past 50 years have been taught to wait for data, assuming that the memory systems feeding the main computers chips are slow.

... and they'd still have to wait for data, knowing that modern apps love pulling data from the network.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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A memristor is the 4th fundamental circuit component, along with capacitors, resistors, and inductors. The important part of memristors is that they can be arranged to form a crossbar latch, which acts like a transistor. This crossbar latches are very very small, and very low power. HP plans on achieving data density of 100GB/cm^2 [1] with read write speeds approximately 100x faster then flash memory while using 1% o…

> Basically when this technology comes of age we'll see smart phones reach the order of terabytes of storage. Looking forward to carrying the library of congress, netflix's entire catalog, and all of openstreetmap on my phone in the next 5 years.

Software grows to match the hardware. If storage goes up 100x, data will grow to accommodate.

Some things won't grow, to be sure. Anything text-based, for example. But movies, music, pictures... would probably all explode in fidelity and thus size.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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A memristor is the 4th fundamental circuit component, along with capacitors, resistors, and inductors. The important part of memristors is that they can be arranged to form a crossbar latch, which acts like a transistor. This crossbar latches are very very small, and very low power. HP plans on achieving data density of 100GB/cm^2 [1] with read write speeds approximately 100x faster then flash memory while using 1% o…

> Basically when this technology comes of age we'll see smart phones reach the order of terabytes of storage. Looking forward to carrying the library of congress, netflix's entire catalog, and all of openstreetmap on my phone in the next 5 years.

We'll think about media in a completely different way when this happens.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically when this technology comes of age we'll see smart phones reach the order of terabytes of storage. Looking forward to carrying the library of congress, netflix's entire catalog, and all of openstreetmap on my phone in the next 5 years.

This means we might be able to make a literal version of the hitchhikers guide. All of human knowledge in your hand, no network connectivity needed.

You'd need the network connectivity anyway just to stay 'in sync'. But in off-line mode life would be a lot easier.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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> Basically when this technology comes of age we'll see smart phones reach the order of terabytes of storage. Looking forward to carrying the library of congress, netflix's entire catalog, and all of openstreetmap on my phone in the next 5 years.

This means we might be able to make a literal version of the hitchhikers guide. All of human knowledge in your hand, no network connectivity needed.

All of Wikipedia (English) already fits on a smartphone with a 64GB SD card.

Re: With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer

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Is there a better way to test a tech than to make a product with it?

Well they announced it cautiously back in 2006, popular science ran an article on it. They've done some press mainly with EE magazines since then. This technology has been in R&D for nearly a decade. I figure it pretty mature.

> This technology has been in R&D for nearly a decade. I figure it pretty mature.

Funny, I read that the exact opposite way. If it was mature we'd be seeing products.

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