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Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by Shamanmuni »

jcromartie wrote: post #31

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

It has some minor issues, sure, but I'm completely missing the atrocious part. In fact, I think it's quite nice, hope to use this UI soon. It would be great if you could send an email to the developers with your observations as, you know, it's a beta and some help is always needed.

I wonder why so many design-related critiques sound as if someone comitted a crime against humanity. C'est la vie, I suppose.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by reitanqild »

jcromartie wrote: post #31

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

He, I would like to say it is the price for living with kde. I find it is generally worth it and suggest other people try it if they don't like their current setup and have some time to spare. I changed to ubuntu fo a few years while they used gnome 2 but now I am back on kde for my workstation and have been for a couple of years. (Distroshopping coming up later this month when the various lts-buntus and derivatives have stabilized.)

Yes it beta but if the screenshots immediately raises red flags to you chances are you are a mac us ser and should stay with mac for now.

(I have used mac for years and it annoys me to no end, mostly because it is so close to perfect but still broken to no end for many of my use cases. For me linux shortcuts, linux software, fullscreen working w/multi monitor, "correct" keyboard layout and keyboard shortcuts that makes sense to me is far more worth than visual polish. But then again I am weird, ain't I? ;-)

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by gpo »

For God's sake. I don't care a dime about fancy UIs. I mean, I really, really, really don't care. I want a robust and reliable system that doesn't change all the time for no good reason. I want a worthy Outlook alternative. Outlook is much more than just an email client. Kontact, Evolution and Thunderbird+Lightning just aren't good enough (they're simply full of bugs and I've tried all 3 of them). Why waste all those manhours in useless ice candy and not improve those instead?

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by edoloughlin »

gpo wrote: post #64

For God's sake. I don't care a dime about fancy UIs. I mean, I really, really, really don't care. I want a robust and reliable system that doesn't change all the time for no good reason. I want a worthy Outlook alternative. Outlook is much more than just an email client. Kontact, Evolution and Thunderbird+Lightning just aren't good enough (they're simply full of bugs and I've tried all 3 of them). Why waste all those…

I don't care a dime about fancy UIs

Neither do I. I love the fact that, after years of wasting pixels on 3D effects and shadows, we're moving beyond that. This release of KDE seems to be a step in that direction.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by jbert »

emilsedgh wrote: post #54
jbert wrote: post #26

Is there an easy way with KDE4/dbus to get functionality similar to KDE3/dcop? Example task: 1) inspect running konsole task to find exposed interfaces 2) find one related to background colour 3) script up "change background colour to red in current konsole" command Last time I looked at the KDE+dbus situation (early KDE4) it seemed this was really hard.

Of course. It's DBUS. You can trigger dbus functions using QDbus. `qdbus org.kde.konsole` shows you available functionality. Browse through it.

Thanks. qdbusviewer shows some available interfaces.

Looks like a bunch of konsole stuff never got implemented as dbus interfaces in KDE4. This specific use case seems to be covered by the konsoleprofile command (I wonder why the devs chose that route instead of exposing a dbus interface).

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by pestaa »

gnufied wrote: post #25

About 4 years ago, I switched from KDE/Kubuntu to OSX. Not because I hated KDE, but because my job needed OSX. It takes divvy, sizeup, apptivate, bartenderapp to do, what I was able to do with KDE out of box. The dual monitor support in OSX is still not in par with KDE. I have been using Kubuntu/KDE as my main workstation for last couple of months and I love depth of how much is possible with window environment. I th…

I was constantly surprised how KDE makes it possible to configure my environment exactly the way I like, while maintaining a bearable level of complexity in the control panel.

Really excited to see this visual update.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by pestaa »

baldfat wrote: post #35
ama729 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to say, this[1] looks downright impressive. Congrats everyone! Edit: To add a bit more to the conversation, does the change from Canonical to Blue Systems[2] changed much to the development of Kubuntu/KDE? [1] https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems

Only my opinion and probably wrong BUT KUbuntu = Worst KDE integration and the cause for why so many people have a negative view of KDE! OpenSUSE = Best KDE integration

What makes you say KDE is badly integrated in Kubuntu?
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