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Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#51

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

KDE has always been--and always will be, apparently--an aesthetic nightmare.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#52

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

Yes,this just shows that this is a beta release. These parts of the UI are under constant change and improvement.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#53
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually more optimization is taking place than visual refreshes. Porting the stuff to Qt5 (esp. QtQuick2) should speed everything up on non-ancient PCs. Visual refreshes are just easier to explain. ;-)

Its not speed I'm bothered about. KDE is more or less very smooth at that. Its the resources it takes! The CPU is always nearly being utilized on a small-medium scale, and nearly 700mb is taken away at boot-time and gathers upto 2gb upon usage. That's too high, at least I think so. Would KDE actually require so much for all the features it gives or can that actually come down?

Why would it matter if a piece of software uses CPU and RAM if it doesn't negatively affect the performance of the system?

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#54
post #26

Is there an easy way with KDE4/dbus to get functionality similar to KDE3/dcop? Example task: 1) inspect running konsole task to find exposed interfaces 2) find one related to background colour 3) script up "change background colour to red in current konsole" command Last time I looked at the KDE+dbus situation (early KDE4) it seemed this was really hard.

Of course. It's DBUS. You can trigger dbus functions using QDbus. `qdbus org.kde.konsole` shows you available functionality. Browse through it.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#55
I think what strikes me about DE upgrades like this is that they don't appear to add anything fundamentally new or promise to provide me with a meaningfully improved or more efficient experience.

For my part - ever since switching to i3, I can't really see myself using any other WM. Once I got used to not touching the mouse, I lost all desire to use a traditional mouse centric GUI.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#56
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not speed I'm bothered about. KDE is more or less very smooth at that. Its the resources it takes! The CPU is always nearly being utilized on a small-medium scale, and nearly 700mb is taken away at boot-time and gathers upto 2gb upon usage. That's too high, at least I think so. Would KDE actually require so much for all the features it gives or can that actually come down?

Why would it matter if a piece of software uses CPU and RAM if it doesn't negatively affect the performance of the system?

It affects the performance of the system! By "smooth", I referred to KDE's UX, which is more or less smooth. But the overall system performance reduces due to less resource when you run some heavyweight tasks.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#58
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually more optimization is taking place than visual refreshes. Porting the stuff to Qt5 (esp. QtQuick2) should speed everything up on non-ancient PCs. Visual refreshes are just easier to explain. ;-)

Its not speed I'm bothered about. KDE is more or less very smooth at that. Its the resources it takes! The CPU is always nearly being utilized on a small-medium scale, and nearly 700mb is taken away at boot-time and gathers upto 2gb upon usage. That's too high, at least I think so. Would KDE actually require so much for all the features it gives or can that actually come down?

Are you sure you are counting that memory usage correctly? Because altought KDE consistently uses 6GB on my machine by some metrics, the total used memory at the same time stays under 1GB.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#59
post #57

Can I press super/win-key, type [name of application], press enter and it brings up the [application]? It didn't when I last tried, and I don't want a window manager that doesn't behave in that way. Windows, Gnome shell and Unity does it - it's not hard.

Alt+F2 in KDE to bring up KRunner but you can change it to whatever keys you like

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#60
post #57

Can I press super/win-key, type [name of application], press enter and it brings up the [application]? It didn't when I last tried, and I don't want a window manager that doesn't behave in that way. Windows, Gnome shell and Unity does it - it's not hard.

Alt+F2 does this. It's actually done this since at least KDE 2.x, maybe a bit earlier.
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