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KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

The blue bar above the wireless symbol (guessing) indicates that the menu is open. Agree with your other points though.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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post #3

Based on the screenshots it seem KDE devs tone down their interface to simpler visuals (icons, colours, shades and all the blingbling I usually associate KDE with). Is that the trend for the next iteration of KDE ? (I like it)

Yes, they have a new design project: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/ Although in my opinion their work hasn't exactly been a huge improvement so far. It's just a flatter coat of paint with the same issues that already plague KDE: inconsistent padding and spacing, terrible organization (think system settings) and so on.

Their icons are not good. Too glassy and cartoony and too many gradients. They don't look modern, they look like icons for a kids app from 10 years ago.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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post #26

Is there an easy way with KDE4/dbus to get functionality similar to KDE3/dcop? Example task: 1) inspect running konsole task to find exposed interfaces 2) find one related to background colour 3) script up "change background colour to red in current konsole" command Last time I looked at the KDE+dbus situation (early KDE4) it seemed this was really hard.

I hated dbus from the moment it was conceived.

Even if we forget Gnome's track record for infrastructure, it was notoriously command-line-hostile.

So I guess DCOP is bye bye and dbus is no good.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#45

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

KDE versions 1-3 were great piece of software. Remember kioslave's support for ssh/sftp? Awesome stuff. The current state of the project makes me sad.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

#46
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually more optimization is taking place than visual refreshes. Porting the stuff to Qt5 (esp. QtQuick2) should speed everything up on non-ancient PCs. Visual refreshes are just easier to explain. ;-)

Its not speed I'm bothered about. KDE is more or less very smooth at that. Its the resources it takes! The CPU is always nearly being utilized on a small-medium scale, and nearly 700mb is taken away at boot-time and gathers upto 2gb upon usage. That's too high, at least I think so. Would KDE actually require so much for all the features it gives or can that actually come down?

KDE devs are known to live on the bleeding edge. A lot of people complained about it when KDE moved from v1 to v2, v2 to v3 and v3 to v4. But KDE remains targeted to 'relatively recent' desktops.

It might not be that big of a problem this time around, when(ever) we move from v4 to v5, because hardware isn't evolving as fast as it used to. But KDE will remain a behemoth.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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post #45

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

KDE versions 1-3 were great piece of software. Remember kioslave's support for ssh/sftp? Awesome stuff. The current state of the project makes me sad.

fish/sftp/ftp/smb, all the KIO Slaves are still here, working fine on KDE4 and are all ported to KF5 as well.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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post #26

Is there an easy way with KDE4/dbus to get functionality similar to KDE3/dcop? Example task: 1) inspect running konsole task to find exposed interfaces 2) find one related to background colour 3) script up "change background colour to red in current konsole" command Last time I looked at the KDE+dbus situation (early KDE4) it seemed this was really hard.

Yes. An easy way for someone not familiar with dbus: Use d-feet (should be in your repos) to find the running Konsole and the relevant interface, activate it and play around with it inside d-feet, and then activate it on the command line with dbus-send (you'll need to read dbus-send(1) to get the syntax). Or you could try: https://code.google.com/p/dbus-tools/wiki/DBusCli or http://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/en/node/609
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