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Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by jcromartie »

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw...

Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terrible at distinguishing blue shapes on a noisy background like that). It goes on and on...

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by nailer »

KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #22
nailer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... That said, at the top level the breadcrumbs on the left aren't needed.

I bet your voice is better heard over at the VDG forum on kde.org ;-)

That's not me, that's a well known general design principle: "It seems that perfection is attained, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away."

I did a lot of Linux desktop stuff 10 years ago. Now I feel most of the action takes place inside the browser. KDE's biggest contribution to computing will always be KHTML.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by delian66 »

jacquesm wrote: post #5

KDE is slowly losing ground. It used to be my desktop of choice but that was in the knoppix days. Now there is of course Kubuntu but I switched (more or less by accident rather than by design) a while ago and I don't think I'll be switching back. My desktop is practically invisible to me anyway, all I run on a normal workday is firefox, a terminal window and thunderbird. The one piece of software from the KDE distro…

I love Konsole too, and really like Klipper (the best clipboard manager for Linux in my opinion).

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by baldfat »

ama729 wrote: post #15
KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You link to a blog and yet you apparently don't read it. KDE System Settings is being redisigned as well. Just scroll down a bit: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... The redesign is not in this beta and, depending how long it takes, maybe won't make it into the first final release either. Partially it's even by design. It's not intended that Plasma 5 diverges too much from the current rele…

I have to say, this[1] looks downright impressive. Congrats everyone! Edit: To add a bit more to the conversation, does the change from Canonical to Blue Systems[2] changed much to the development of Kubuntu/KDE? [1] https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems

Only my opinion and probably wrong BUT

KUbuntu = Worst KDE integration and the cause for why so many people have a negative view of KDE!

OpenSUSE = Best KDE integration

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by riquito »

[deleted] wrote: post #27

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Normal people don't think "how many CPU cycles does this DE use?". They look for familiar, frictionless, easy to use and pleasant to the eye interfaces. If you're happy with dwm, good for you. I'm happy with xmonad. DE are made for the majority of people, not for nerd.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by eyko »

jcromartie wrote: post #31

This screenshot: http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0-beta2/plasma50b2-netw... Is this supposed to illustrate the "beta-ness" of the release? Because it's an atrocious UI. Two different-sized "wrench" icons next to each other? What are those checkboxes for? What does the little blue bar above the wireless symbol supposed to indicate? The blue lock is lost in the wireless icon in the network list (the eye is terribl…

I think it's just supposed to illustrate that this is KDE.

Speaking as a past KDE user (and with zero experience of KDE in the past 7 years or more) I would say that each wrench is for a different purpose. Maybe one leads to Network Settings and the other lets you configure the widget. At least that's how using KDE used to feel back in the days.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by SirMonkey »

mercurial wrote: post #29
veeti wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I read it and I know the settings are being redesigned. The system settings is just one example and perhaps the most egregious. It's also the one that is still a constant annoyance after years of using KDE when trying to find something.

It is? My girlfriend uses KDE, and I never found difficult to find stuff using the integrated search. On the other hand, if they would recreate print settings, I wouldn't have to explain that typing http://localhost:631/ in a browser is the most intuitive way of managing printers.

Wow mindblow! Thanks!

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by XorNot »

riquito wrote: post #36
[deleted] wrote: post #27

[deleted]

Normal people don't think "how many CPU cycles does this DE use?". They look for familiar, frictionless, easy to use and pleasant to the eye interfaces. If you're happy with dwm, good for you. I'm happy with xmonad. DE are made for the majority of people, not for nerd.

Also "lightweight" gets too much play in Linux UI circles. What people actually mean, I think, is "not janky and broken".

Heck, why is Linux Mint exciting? Because it's explicitely not trying to revolutionize anything, they're just trying to make the basic idea work as well as possible.

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