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Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by KAMiKAZOW »

ama729 wrote: post #15
KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You link to a blog and yet you apparently don't read it. KDE System Settings is being redisigned as well. Just scroll down a bit: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... The redesign is not in this beta and, depending how long it takes, maybe won't make it into the first final release either. Partially it's even by design. It's not intended that Plasma 5 diverges too much from the current rele…

I have to say, this[1] looks downright impressive. Congrats everyone! Edit: To add a bit more to the conversation, does the change from Canonical to Blue Systems[2] changed much to the development of Kubuntu/KDE? [1] https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems

Canonical never contributed much to KDE. Yes, a few bits here and there but overall mostly negligible.

Blue Systems OTOH is a big KDE contributor. Things like KDE Search improved a lot thanks to Blue's involvement. As for Kubuntu: It appears to me that mostly the same people are involved with it. The only KDE thing mostly specific to Kubuntu is Muon (and that's being ported to Debian as we speak). Everything else by Blue Systems is AFAIK cross-distro.

The Kubuntu guys already announced that Canonical's own display server Mir is not an option. Therefore it remains to be seen how feasible Kubuntu remains with Canonical pushing a Wayland competitor.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by KAMiKAZOW »

nailer wrote: post #14
KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You link to a blog and yet you apparently don't read it. KDE System Settings is being redisigned as well. Just scroll down a bit: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... The redesign is not in this beta and, depending how long it takes, maybe won't make it into the first final release either. Partially it's even by design. It's not intended that Plasma 5 diverges too much from the current rele…

Nice: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... That said, at the top level the breadcrumbs on the left aren't needed.

I bet your voice is better heard over at the VDG forum on kde.org ;-)

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by mercurial »

jacquesm wrote: post #5

KDE is slowly losing ground. It used to be my desktop of choice but that was in the knoppix days. Now there is of course Kubuntu but I switched (more or less by accident rather than by design) a while ago and I don't think I'll be switching back. My desktop is practically invisible to me anyway, all I run on a normal workday is firefox, a terminal window and thunderbird. The one piece of software from the KDE distro…

I don't use KDE anymore (switched to XMonad a few years ago), but I still use Dolphin for its DAV/SMB capabilities, and occasionally gwenview. But why do you think KDE is "losing ground"?

And Konsole is pretty good, but doesn't handle resizing well in XMonad, so it's urxvt for me.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by Touche »

johnchristopher wrote: post #2

Based on the screenshots it seem KDE devs tone down their interface to simpler visuals (icons, colours, shades and all the blingbling I usually associate KDE with). Is that the trend for the next iteration of KDE ? (I like it)

But they're still using those gaudy start menu icons that looked gaudy 5 years ago.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by gnufied »

About 4 years ago, I switched from KDE/Kubuntu to OSX. Not because I hated KDE, but because my job needed OSX. It takes divvy, sizeup, apptivate, bartenderapp to do, what I was able to do with KDE out of box. The dual monitor support in OSX is still not in par with KDE.

I have been using Kubuntu/KDE as my main workstation for last couple of months and I love depth of how much is possible with window environment. I think KDE works pretty well for powerusers as well as beginners and I am excited to see its new update!

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by jbert »

Is there an easy way with KDE4/dbus to get functionality similar to KDE3/dcop?

Example task:

1) inspect running konsole task to find exposed interfaces

2) find one related to background colour

3) script up "change background colour to red in current konsole" command

Last time I looked at the KDE+dbus situation (early KDE4) it seemed this was really hard.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by vacri »

veeti wrote: post #16
KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You link to a blog and yet you apparently don't read it. KDE System Settings is being redisigned as well. Just scroll down a bit: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... The redesign is not in this beta and, depending how long it takes, maybe won't make it into the first final release either. Partially it's even by design. It's not intended that Plasma 5 diverges too much from the current rele…

Yes, I read it and I know the settings are being redesigned. The system settings is just one example and perhaps the most egregious. It's also the one that is still a constant annoyance after years of using KDE when trying to find something.

Try a different heavy DE and see if you can even find the settings these days. I hadn't used KDE since back when they first released 4 and have just started using it again. I'm loving it - a heavyweight DE where things are properly integrated (sorry XFCE and similar) and that you can actually personally tune the settings for. The settings can be a little difficult to find... but at least they're there to be found :)

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by mercurial »

veeti wrote: post #16
KAMiKAZOW wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You link to a blog and yet you apparently don't read it. KDE System Settings is being redisigned as well. Just scroll down a bit: http://wheeldesign.blogspot.fi/2014/05/system-settings-and-n... The redesign is not in this beta and, depending how long it takes, maybe won't make it into the first final release either. Partially it's even by design. It's not intended that Plasma 5 diverges too much from the current rele…

Yes, I read it and I know the settings are being redesigned. The system settings is just one example and perhaps the most egregious. It's also the one that is still a constant annoyance after years of using KDE when trying to find something.

It is? My girlfriend uses KDE, and I never found difficult to find stuff using the integrated search. On the other hand, if they would recreate print settings, I wouldn't have to explain that typing http://localhost:631/ in a browser is the most intuitive way of managing printers.

Re: KDE Ships Second Beta of Next Generation Plasma Workspace

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Post by jacquesm »

mercurial wrote: post #23
jacquesm wrote: post #5

KDE is slowly losing ground. It used to be my desktop of choice but that was in the knoppix days. Now there is of course Kubuntu but I switched (more or less by accident rather than by design) a while ago and I don't think I'll be switching back. My desktop is practically invisible to me anyway, all I run on a normal workday is firefox, a terminal window and thunderbird. The one piece of software from the KDE distro…

I don't use KDE anymore (switched to XMonad a few years ago), but I still use Dolphin for its DAV/SMB capabilities, and occasionally gwenview. But why do you think KDE is "losing ground"? And Konsole is pretty good, but doesn't handle resizing well in XMonad, so it's urxvt for me.

> But why do you think KDE is "losing ground"?

I used to see it everywhere that linux was being used, 50/50 or so with other desktops, I don't even remember the last time I saw someone use it.

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