Does FF have nice memory tools? I can't see any. I've come to rely a lot of Chromium built in mem tools: Heap snapshot (including diff between snapshots), Record Heap Allocations, Timeline.
Yes, extensively; try about:memory for a few of them.
To be fair, about:memory is designed to be used primarily by Firefox developers. Some web developers will be able to use it effectively, but it is quite intimidating.
Happily, memory profiling tools designed for use by web devs are being actively worked on.
Still the best developer toolset, on any browser. Unarguably once its combined with FF native tools, and the webdevtoolbar.
Can you explain why? I've never found a use case that it covers better than Chrome, and it seems to bloat FF a bit. But I'm very willing to believe I just don't understand what it offers.
Chrome dev tools lacks in the DOM view of firebug. Firebug makes it easy to search and identify all the DOM objects.
Not sure why Firefox chose to build their own developer tool when firebug was one of the compelling reason to use firefox and started the trend of having an extensive tool for debugging/inspecting webpages.
Yes, extensively; try about:memory for a few of them.
To be fair, about:memory is designed to be used primarily by Firefox developers. Some web developers will be able to use it effectively, but it is quite intimidating. Happily, memory profiling tools designed for use by web devs are being actively worked on.
To be honest, it is impressive the kind of detail about:memory manages to provide. But yes, it can be fairly intimidating. That is the problem I tried to address when I tried building a D3 backed front-end over it[1].
I use Chrome or Firefox built in developer tools, however I still think Firebug fits my workflow the best. Unfortunately it's too slow to use. The thing I miss the most is the inline display of AJAX call responses, and being able to write/run multi-line snippets of JavaScript (without ctrl+enter). Somewhat interestingly, Firefox built their entire add-on architecture because Joe Hewitt wanted dev tools (for debugging…
> The thing I miss the most is the inline display of AJAX call responses If I understood correctly, you can have this on Chrome. In Chrome JS Console, do a right click in an empty space, and select "Log XMLHTTPRequests" (or it was something similar).
that works but still not as good as firebug's UI. basically you then need to click on the log entry, it will take you to the network panel and then you need to do another click to view the actual data. firebug has it all there in JSON decoded form and HTML its more convenient and requires a single click.
such as? not disagreeing, just wondering what you consider "must have" features that Firefox currently lacks.
For me it's the interface - chrome dev tools are similar to what I learned with firebug, where as Firefox builtin tools don't make sense to me. When I need to debug something in Firefox I always install firebug and it's almost the same as if I'm debugging in chrome. Totally a UX thing for me... Happy firebug is still being worked on - it really changed the game in web development.
i feel the same way. firefox dev tools feel as if they were put together without much thought. a lot of features just thrown all over the place. I still use firebug mostly but chrome dev tools even if not as good as firebug are still a lot better than the firefox ones.
I use Chrome or Firefox built in developer tools, however I still think Firebug fits my workflow the best. Unfortunately it's too slow to use. The thing I miss the most is the inline display of AJAX call responses, and being able to write/run multi-line snippets of JavaScript (without ctrl+enter). Somewhat interestingly, Firefox built their entire add-on architecture because Joe Hewitt wanted dev tools (for debugging…
> The thing I miss the most is the inline display of AJAX call responses If I understood correctly, you can have this on Chrome. In Chrome JS Console, do a right click in an empty space, and select "Log XMLHTTPRequests" (or it was something similar).
Shamelessly hijacking your comment to ask a question....is there any way (Chrome/Firebug, whatever) to somehow output to console or a log, all javascript execution (ie: as any function is executed, output the function name and the argument values). I know there is some way to turn on debugging and breakpoints, but having very little expertise in javascript and no knowledge of the code I'm looking at, the ability to just dump all activity so I could sift through it later would be tremendously useful.
> The thing I miss the most is the inline display of AJAX call responses If I understood correctly, you can have this on Chrome. In Chrome JS Console, do a right click in an empty space, and select "Log XMLHTTPRequests" (or it was something similar).
Shamelessly hijacking your comment to ask a question....is there any way (Chrome/Firebug, whatever) to somehow output to console or a log, all javascript execution (ie: as any function is executed, output the function name and the argument values). I know there is some way to turn on debugging and breakpoints, but having very little expertise in javascript and no knowledge of the code I'm looking at, the ability to j…