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Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #17

I really dislike the use of "Full Stack Developer" and especially when I'm pushed into that box by the only other choices being FE and iOS dev.

yes I take full stack to mean that they can work at all 7 layers of the OSI stack - i.e. they could design and build/supervise the installation of a network that the code they write can run on.

Whereas some take it to mean they can do basic server coding and html/JavaScript

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #17

I really dislike the use of "Full Stack Developer" and especially when I'm pushed into that box by the only other choices being FE and iOS dev.

"Full Stack Developer" is the equivalent of "5 years of experience" in whatever new language or tech was announced last week. When I see companies advertise that, I know they are clueless right up front.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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A very busy space. The true demand is that you have lots of passive talent signing up. These folks are highly valued, but it's not clear how you get passive seekers (who aren't interested in moving unless they get excited) to make a change. Active seekers are already in the ATS' of ALL your recruiting companies. They aren't that valuable. So, you have lots to do here. Your competitors at Hired.com and elsewhere are i…

Unlike hired.com, this guy tells me two questions in that since I'm not in SF, NY, or LA I should move on.

Which I actually appreciate. Other places waste my time. I don't know how my appreciation translates into revenue for him, so we're missing any decent feedback loop besides nice HN comments.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #17

I really dislike the use of "Full Stack Developer" and especially when I'm pushed into that box by the only other choices being FE and iOS dev.

"Full Stack Developer" is the equivalent of "5 years of experience" in whatever new language or tech was announced last week. When I see companies advertise that, I know they are clueless right up front.

About a week ago it occurred to me that "Full Stack Developer" is what we used to call "Software Engineer." It's like suddenly understanding some idiom the locals are using; everything in the universe made a lot more sense.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #17

I really dislike the use of "Full Stack Developer" and especially when I'm pushed into that box by the only other choices being FE and iOS dev.

where does one fall in their list of choices if they are doing backend/server side code?

http://i.imgur.com/h20L66f.jpg

there seems to be no clear choice for that

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Full Stack Developer" is the equivalent of "5 years of experience" in whatever new language or tech was announced last week. When I see companies advertise that, I know they are clueless right up front.

About a week ago it occurred to me that "Full Stack Developer" is what we used to call "Software Engineer." It's like suddenly understanding some idiom the locals are using; everything in the universe made a lot more sense.

Is that true?

I always took "Full Stack Developer" to mean "We're too cheap to hire a proper ops team, so we're going to expect you to serve triple-duty as Sysadmin, DBA, and Software Developer."

Maybe I've been unfairly ignoring a lot of postings?

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a different market & a generic term used in hiring (this is only for tech talent & curated approach), the name isn't that important though.

I thought the generic notion of career ladders was what people went into startups to avoid...

I assumed people went into startups because conventional career ladders don't exist anymore.

When was the last time you got a raise or promotion by staying with your company?

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #8
post #7

Was there any concern about a trademark conflict with TheLadders?

It's a different market & a generic term used in hiring (this is only for tech talent & curated approach), the name isn't that important though.

TheLadders - Find a ________ job (Higher paying)

Ladder - Find a ________ job. (Startup)

Not only that, but the domains are very close:

    tryladder.com
    theladders.com
Prepare for a C&D from The Ladders.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the generic notion of career ladders was what people went into startups to avoid...

I assumed people went into startups because conventional career ladders don't exist anymore. When was the last time you got a raise or promotion by staying with your company?

Around 2009, working at a university, personally.

Re: Show HN: Ladder, find a new startup job anonymously

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post #13

What do these calls-to-action mean? [hiring] [tech talent] I have no idea what either are going to do. Also, when I click on "tech talent", this is confusing: "What role are you looking for? We only accept high quality companies that are actively hiring." It sounds like you're trying to qualify me applying...but you're actually talking about which companies you may or may not refer to me. I understand you're trying t…

Thanks Tim, changed hiring to companies & clarified that statement. Will try to improve this further.

Why not "hire" and "get hired"?
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