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Myths about ElementaryOS

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#41
Eh, they can say what they want, but ElementaryOS is never going to be appealing to a large subset of us if you only make it available as an OS.

Arch gives me rolling releases and the latest and greatest of all my software. I'm not giving that up just for some NIH apps.

Re: Myths about ElementaryOS

#42

When it comes to problems with Linux as a personal desktop OS, the appearance of the GUI is among my lowest concerns. What prevents me from considering Linux as a desktop or laptop OS includes: horrible battery life times (worse than half for a friend's thinkpad when compared to it running Windows), how difficult it is to get Bluetooth and Wifi working, really bad multi-touch for trackpads. The problems with Linux as…

Linux has worked very well on the business-class thinkpad machines for more than 15 years. Look for the T or X series, for example. These days you need to avoid machines with nVidia graphics. A T-series thinkpad with intel graphics will just work out of the box on any linux distribution.

> Linux has worked very well on the business-class thinkpad machines for more than 15 years.

What does "worked very well" mean? That's an unhelpful subjective statement. How does the battery life compare? Can you get the full 10 hours of thinkpad battery life time running Linux if not what percentage? Do the Bluedriver work out of the box? Does it wake up from sleep and connect to wifi correctly? I don't think they've worked "very well" at all, but if you have some objective facts or experience please share, I would appreciate it because a Linux desktop that actually works would be awesome.

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#43

When it comes to problems with Linux as a personal desktop OS, the appearance of the GUI is among my lowest concerns. What prevents me from considering Linux as a desktop or laptop OS includes: horrible battery life times (worse than half for a friend's thinkpad when compared to it running Windows), how difficult it is to get Bluetooth and Wifi working, really bad multi-touch for trackpads. The problems with Linux as…

This isn't 2004. The state of development of the various GNU/ Linux distributions has reached a point where everything "just works". I have yet to see an installation with driver problems. Not to mention that the battery life on my ThinkPad easily compares with, if not exceeds, that of a Windows installation.

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post #43

When it comes to problems with Linux as a personal desktop OS, the appearance of the GUI is among my lowest concerns. What prevents me from considering Linux as a desktop or laptop OS includes: horrible battery life times (worse than half for a friend's thinkpad when compared to it running Windows), how difficult it is to get Bluetooth and Wifi working, really bad multi-touch for trackpads. The problems with Linux as…

This isn't 2004. The state of development of the various GNU/ Linux distributions has reached a point where everything "just works". I have yet to see an installation with driver problems. Not to mention that the battery life on my ThinkPad easily compares with, if not exceeds, that of a Windows installation.

Both my Windows and OSX machines know that if I connect my bluetooth speaker to them, to play the sound through the speaker. Likewise, they know that if I plug in a Logitech USB dongle into the machine, that the sound and mic should go through the dongle.

Elementary is better than most at having some sort of easy to use, functioning bluetooth setup, but every time I use one of these devices I have to go into sound settings and switch them to the device. It's a pain in the ass that other companies have figured out.

Re: Myths about ElementaryOS

#46

When it comes to problems with Linux as a personal desktop OS, the appearance of the GUI is among my lowest concerns. What prevents me from considering Linux as a desktop or laptop OS includes: horrible battery life times (worse than half for a friend's thinkpad when compared to it running Windows), how difficult it is to get Bluetooth and Wifi working, really bad multi-touch for trackpads. The problems with Linux as…

Personally I recently had more problems with windows that with linux.

I have a dell l502x of 2012. In linux all work perfectly (except obviously the nvidia card that require bumblebee)

In windows8 my touchpad has not good driver. Those for win7 runs but the multitouch is broken and the "deactive touchpad" button does not work, so I keep clicking it while writing. Also the wifi card keep stoping randomly while on linux all work smoothly.

Long story short: I think linux has made really enough improvements firmware side to be considered as main os for all days.

Re: Myths about ElementaryOS

#49
The first myth is a valid point, although it comes across as a little defensive. The person who wrote it is an elementary OS developer, I suspect, and I wonder if they are missing an important point: it would be FUCKING AWESOME if Elementary OS were "just a theme on top of Ubuntu."

It would presumably mean more frequent releases, less dependency on any given version of Ubuntu, smaller workload on the developers, and so on. Reinventing every part of the OS, including the bits that people hope to use as little as possible, might not be the best strategy at this stage. (I have no illusions as to whether they'll change their strategy)

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