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Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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The "this valuation is crazy" and "this proves a bubble" comments are filling up my Twitter feed and HN, but I couldn't disagree more. Call me crazy, but I think this valuation is completely fair. For a few reasons: Uber has serious revenue. They do more trips in San Francisco than taxis do. This isn't a pie-in-the-sky "there will be money there, I'm sure of it" thing. They bring in billions, and they're starting to…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/06/0... Given they are getting banned in entire markets, I think this evaluation is crazy. UPS, Fedex, etc already have software just as advanced for planning their routes. Uber isn't going to magically beat them somehow. Heck, part of why they lean on the USPS is there is some economics in delivery outside of big cities that create a situation where it makes no…

They are expanding pretty fast; have you heard of a (not so) far away country called Colombia? Well, they are already here; as they will be in all the nations that allow them to. Getting banned hurts them, but there is no universal ban in sight.

Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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The "this valuation is crazy" and "this proves a bubble" comments are filling up my Twitter feed and HN, but I couldn't disagree more. Call me crazy, but I think this valuation is completely fair. For a few reasons: Uber has serious revenue. They do more trips in San Francisco than taxis do. This isn't a pie-in-the-sky "there will be money there, I'm sure of it" thing. They bring in billions, and they're starting to…

"They've nailed the difficult math behind the logistics issues - basically a scaled version of the traveling salesman problem." This is so much bullshit it makes my eyes hurt. They "talk" about this a lot but it's not even related dude! Read some books.

so hostile. even if it's not a general solution, it's working. perhaps it's time for you to put down the books and build something.

Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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how many people use taxi these days? and how often? $17B, it got to be crazy.

Well, in NYC alone there are 236 MILLION trips per year [1]

Without reading that entire document, lets just say NYC is a $20bn+ market for the taxi industry...

1. http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/2014_taxicab_fact_...

Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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The "this valuation is crazy" and "this proves a bubble" comments are filling up my Twitter feed and HN, but I couldn't disagree more. Call me crazy, but I think this valuation is completely fair. For a few reasons: Uber has serious revenue. They do more trips in San Francisco than taxis do. This isn't a pie-in-the-sky "there will be money there, I'm sure of it" thing. They bring in billions, and they're starting to…

"They've nailed the difficult math behind the logistics issues - basically a scaled version of the traveling salesman problem." This is so much bullshit it makes my eyes hurt. They "talk" about this a lot but it's not even related dude! Read some books.

It's not strictly "traveling salesman" but it is a real and challenging logistical problem.

I've chatted w/ some Uber engineers about this and the story I was told is that originally they were using Google Maps estimates. But the data is really important to capacity planning and giving travel time estimates within their app. And it was often very wrong. They even had a number -- something like "if you multiply google maps estimates by 1.5 they will actually be more accurate". So building a better version of this in-house, based on the millions of miles previously driven, was a very important and challenging problem.

Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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Prepending Edit: If you're reading this and have a lot more familiarity in how investments of this kind are made, and what kinds of things these investors are thinking, I really am making this post looking for education. I didn't finish college, and don't know a lot, but I'm trying. If you'd rather not stir the pot by talking here, my e-mail is in my profile. The one thing that makes me skeptical about this, is histo…

I think UberX has the potential to become bigger than the taxi market. In the vast majority of American cities, especially in smaller ones, taxis are not readily available and are just too expensive for getting across a suburban sprawl.

The main Uber service depends on the existing market to some extent but I think it also has the potential to grow it.

Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/06/0... Given they are getting banned in entire markets, I think this evaluation is crazy. UPS, Fedex, etc already have software just as advanced for planning their routes. Uber isn't going to magically beat them somehow. Heck, part of why they lean on the USPS is there is some economics in delivery outside of big cities that create a situation where it makes no…

They are expanding pretty fast; have you heard of a (not so) far away country called Colombia? Well, they are already here; as they will be in all the nations that allow them to. Getting banned hurts them, but there is no universal ban in sight.

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Re: Uber Sets Valuation Record of $17B in New Funding

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how many people use taxi these days? and how often? $17B, it got to be crazy.

Hi - I'm one of the people that uses Uber and loves it. I live in a big city, Chicago, and guessing from your statement you don't live in a taxi city. Let me tell you why I love uber and hate taxis (or why I only take Uber Taxi). 1) I used to travel for work, and for me that meant getting a 5:45am cab ride from downtown Chicago to the airport. Now, I'm sure you're aware that Chicago is freezing during the winter months, so standing out in the snow at 5:45am on a monday is not something I want to do. What were my options before Uber? 1) Wait outside and try to hail a cab. 2) Call dispatch and be told that a cab may or may not be on its way. This is the real pain that Uber solved for me. I cant tell you how many times I called and was told a cab would be there in 5 minutes, then 15 minutes later, no cab had showed up. So now, its 5:55am on a Monday in the cold Chicago winter, I'm stressing about missing my flight, all because a cab couldn't show up when I ordered it. Uber solved this exacty pain point that I felt. On another note of why I hate taxis and only take uber taxi. A few years ago when Chicago was going after the olympics, they required all taxis to accept credit cards. Now, try to pay for a fare in Chicago with a cab, 50% of the time 'The machine is broken', but when you have no cash, it magically starts working again. I get that these guys do not want to pay the 5% charge to process it (another issue is cab companies upcharging to process cc, but not for this discussion). With uber, I never have to worry about the driver not able to make change for me and just expects hes getting a bigger tip, I never have to worry about only having a CC on me and the driver bitching and complaining about accepting it. Uber solved this problem. Now, they haven't just solved my problem, they've also solved their drivers problem. Talk to a cab driver, ask them how they get paid for their credit card receipts. I'll be willing to bet that they have to go to a special office, receipts in hand, wait a few hours in line, all to get paid. That is ridiculous! Uber direct deposits the money in the drivers bank account, no time wasted by waiting in line, no worry about lost receipts. Now for my last point, imagine you left your phone/wallet/camera/foobar in a taxi in Chicago and you paid in cash. Try calling our 311 number and reporting it, you have about as good of a chance of finding it as comcast does at providing great customer support. With uber, you know your driver, you can simply contact uber and or the taxi company to give specifics on what you lost and where you lost it.

tldr: I taxis

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