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Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by ilyanep »

Karunamon wrote: post #20

This is a genius move. It's exactly what needs to happen to get consumers to realize that it's their ISP fucking them over, not Netflix. The average joe isn't outraged enough about net neutrality. If only they'd start doing this to other known bad actors coughcomcastcough , that might just be what the doctor ordered. I wonder why they ponied up the money to the protection rackets first, and only then started pointing…

It could be so that the ISP can't claim "if you had peered with us, we wouldn't be so congested" or some other BS.

Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Wow, what a stupid move on Verizon's part. I have to believe the Streisand effects will far and away outpace any remedial action they might try to achieve here. While I get that they are irritated by their customers calling them up knowing more about how broken their network is, than the tech answering the phone, but this is going to be the new reality. With Google, Netflix, and no doubt Amazon providing more information to their customers about exactly why their product is having issues.

Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by bambax »

What is the point of Verizon sending such a letter?

Do they think Netflix will comply? "Oh Jeez we hadn't thought this through but now with this letter and all, we understand! We'll just start blaming our own servers instead. Thanks."

Or is it simply a necessary step before they sue? But if they sue, isn't it likely they'll lose? (Sue over what anyway?)

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Post by scrabble »

67726e wrote: post #28
Karunamon wrote: post #20

This is a genius move. It's exactly what needs to happen to get consumers to realize that it's their ISP fucking them over, not Netflix. The average joe isn't outraged enough about net neutrality. If only they'd start doing this to other known bad actors coughcomcastcough , that might just be what the doctor ordered. I wonder why they ponied up the money to the protection rackets first, and only then started pointing…

From a strategic perspective, I think paying off one of the ISPs in this case strengthens their case by showing that the problem is a shakedown for money. If they didn't pay up and the issue was never fixed then the ISPs could attempt to play it off as some larger-than-money issue. They've proven the problem is greed.

I never thought of this, but it's quite genius when laid out this way.

Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by rosser »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #32

Wow, what a stupid move on Verizon's part. I have to believe the Streisand effects will far and away outpace any remedial action they might try to achieve here. While I get that they are irritated by their customers calling them up knowing more about how broken their network is, than the tech answering the phone, but this is going to be the new reality. With Google, Netflix, and no doubt Amazon providing more informa…

Until the law firm responsible for their client getting Streisanded suffers significant and public repercussions for doing so, they'll continue to advise this kind of action because billable hours.

Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by theandrewbailey »

Netflix is angry because Verizon isn't giving Netflix the bandwidth that Netflix paid for[0]. Netflix should ignore this C&D on free speech grounds, and tell Verizon to get lost, because corporations are people[0] and have free speech.

[0] I wish I was joking about that.

Re: Netflix replies to Verizon cease and desist letter

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Post by scrabble »

mox1 wrote: post #21

It's frustrating that Verizon and friends can make grandiose statements in their advertising about "unlimited bandwidth", "faster wifi" ,"stream 5 things at a time", etc, etc. Or lie to customers, My mother just called Comcast to downgrade her service and the CS Rep said "WiFi won't work with our Economy Plus internet plan" Yet when another entity does something as simple as showing an error message that casts them i…

What do they mean WiFi won't work? How is that anything other than a blatant lie?

Reminds me of the late 90's when my ISP told me I couldn't get cable Internet because I didn't have a 486. I lied and told them I did to have the modem sent to me to hook up myself. It's a computer network, once it's in my house I can expose it as I like.

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