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HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by lawl »

duiker101 wrote: post #26
lawl wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per p…

Spotify did the same to me, multiple times. Last time yesterday when my pc randomly lost permissions for offline storage. But that is not an excuse. The music industry in trying to provide alternative ways, and I extremely appreciate it and think that we need to be supportive. Only by supporting this changes we will ever see any improvements, we need to find a middleground that can satisfy both parties. Spotify offer…

Usually the media players I use, they uhm play media. Like in open(...,'r'). And should it break my library then I have backups, because there is no DRM with the only usecase of trying to annoy me.

So no, I don't support them. I use Steam though, I think they got DRM right for the most part. I'd prefer no DRM, really. But with Steam I don't notice any DRM. That's good enough for me. I only use it in online mode though.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by RobAley »

duiker101 wrote: post #26
lawl wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per p…

Spotify did the same to me, multiple times. Last time yesterday when my pc randomly lost permissions for offline storage. But that is not an excuse. The music industry in trying to provide alternative ways, and I extremely appreciate it and think that we need to be supportive. Only by supporting this changes we will ever see any improvements, we need to find a middleground that can satisfy both parties. Spotify offer…

It's absolutely the opposite. We need not to be supportive. The industry has demonstrated time and time again it is more than happy with the status quo, and the only reason it's even gone as far as Spotify and co is that people voted with their feet/cash. Be supportive of their efforts, and they'll take that as a sign to stop right there. Sticks, not carrots.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by iotasigma »

rjtavares wrote: post #3

The name is really confusing. A music app called HipHop that isn't focused in hip hop music in particular? That's like naming a bookstore "Comics" and selling all kinds of books. Rapgenius may be branching out (and I have the same doubts in them keeping the rapgenius name), but at least they actually started with rap.

"In computer networking, a hop is one portion of the path between source and destination. Data packets pass through routers and gateways on the way. Each time packets are passed to the next device, a hop occurs."

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by Fuxy »

d135_1r43 wrote: post #17

As a part time musician who needs to spend around 10k for a new album I find this frustrating.

The guys from Tek Syndicate[1] seem to be ok with piracy of their albums however they do ask you to buy it if you think it's good and worth the money.

I think that approach is the best one to have. Pirate it try it out if you really love it please buy it.

You can find it here[2] i know it's a pain to find a link to the album on the main site I need to send them a message about it.

[1] https://teksyndicate.com/

[2] http://zweihander.bandcamp.com/

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by krisgenre »

Fuxy wrote: post #27
lawl wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per p…

I use Spotily for streaming however I don't use it to create a offline library exactly for this DRM shit. I'd rather outright buy the songs somewhere else and have them backed up on another computer as well with btsync just in case these DRM apps try to pull some crap.

I used to buy songs from an online store ( Flyte by Flipkart.com, which later was shutdown ) and upload it to Ubuntu One ( which too is going to be shutdown ).

The above scenario worked perfectly for me. I could access all my music anytime and from any device but unfortunately looks it didn't work out for the vendors :)

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by suoloordi »

janus24 wrote: post #14

It use youtube to have the file of the track https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop/blob/master/coffee/_play... And lastfm/itunes for the information (artist, title, cover) https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop/blob/master/coffee/_Trac...

I think Youtube won't like it when third parties use their content, but hide the video player.

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by chao- »

duiker101 wrote: post #26
lawl wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify randomly deleted my offline library on android. Of course when I was traveling and didn't have a data plan. Canceled my premium subscription a month ago or so. This happened multiple times to me. Yup I'm at the point again where maintaining my own library is more convinient again. It's exactly the DRM shit I won't put up with. Also spotify, rdio etc. Are exactly the same price with the same restrictions per p…

Spotify did the same to me, multiple times. Last time yesterday when my pc randomly lost permissions for offline storage. But that is not an excuse. The music industry in trying to provide alternative ways, and I extremely appreciate it and think that we need to be supportive. Only by supporting this changes we will ever see any improvements, we need to find a middleground that can satisfy both parties. Spotify offer…

"What would happen if the player app you are using to play your offline library breaks and you have no data?"

A traditional media player breaking almost never touches its "offline library".

WMP, Clementine, Foobar2000, Amarok, MPD, Audacious, so on and so forth. Hell you can use VLC as a music player if you wanted to. What happens to your songs if any of these crashes? What happens to the data if you delete the entire application from your computer? Nothing. The data is still there. The application is separate from the data it plays.

Now if the OS has issues, or the hard drive, or a few other things: Your data might be lost, but that is almost never the fault of the "player app".

Re: HipHop: A "Popcorn Time" for music

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Post by peteretep »

I am still consistently frustrated by lack of video content at reasonable prices, and while I never used it, Popcorn Time seemed like a good thing to me.

But, music is a solved problem for me, via Spotify, and I find then that my gut feeling on this is instead that it's parasitic.

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