Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

Post by snprbob86 » Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 10:39 PM UTC

wmeredith wrote: post #103

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Apple's marketing is an added feature. I get a lot of joy looking through their ad copy, in a way that I get out of very few marketing departments'. I always wonder why Microsoft is so bad at advertising. They're not a stupid company. They create products that are nearly always good, if rarely (in my opinion) great. But they've never shown any sort of strength-of-focus and they make things that are ugly. I don't get…

The difference you're seeing is design that's driven by an individual with a single strong voice versus a committee. For clarification, I'm saying that Steve Jobs designed this web page, but whoever did was someone with the authority and the balls to say, "no" over and over to many different people. Those Windows 7 pages reek of too many cooks in the kitchen and/or lack of leadership.

Post by sho » Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 2:35 AM UTC

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Sure, but only high level developers got them. However, I was able to learn the final build number from a friend, then I just downloaded it off BT. I have a copy on order but couldn't wait. Call it time-shifting.

Could your instability be attributed to the fact that you might not be running the actual release version (or has been modified in some nefarious way)?

Post by sho » Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 2:57 AM UTC

tvon wrote: post #93

sho wrote: post #73

You might want to hold off a little while before upgrading, at least until 10.6.1. I upgraded my laptop 3 days ago and since then I've had at least 5 Mail.app crashes, finder a couple of times, and one terminal crash. I did an upgrade install, maybe a clean one is better, but I'm pretty surprised at the instability. Also, if you use Macports, that's not up to speed yet so you'll be doing a lot of fiddling around to g…

I've been using it for a week on a 1st gen MBP (32 bit) and haven't had any crashes. I don't use Erlang, but I have a lot of packages from MacPorts (mysql5, mercurial, git, svn, xorg, perl5 and python26 ) installed without any problems. The only thing I've tried to build that failed is screen. I did a clean install, so that may be the difference maker.

Post by miracle » Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:45 AM UTC

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You more or less said that the grandparent was wrong "just because." You were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument. Exactly what you complained about with me, btw. The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark.

> The only possible response to that sort of thing is snark. Uh.. no it's not. You could respond like you just did now and explain that they "were telling someone that he was wrong without any argument."

Post by dchest » Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 3:16 PM UTC

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I think the removal of PowerPC support is why the OS is now something like 6 or 7GB smaller than before.

But it then adds in x86_64 support, which brings the size back up. The smaller files are likely to be from not installing all the resources (localizations, drivers, etc) at once if not needed.