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Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by st3fan »

Couple of notes:

* It is easier to just install a Linux 3.15 kernel. I installed the latest RC on Ubuntu 14.04 and that did the trick.

* You should not have to install Mountain Lion first. I made a Mavericks ISO using the script mentioned and it installed without any issues

* The Qemu that ships with Ubuntu 14.04 is new enough. No need to compile your own. Those patches are pretty old and if your distro is up to date then you most likely already have a Qemu that just works.

This posting also has more info http://blog.ostanin.org/2014/02/11/playing-with-mac-os-x-on-...

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by kleinishere »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #32
pavlov wrote: post #22

I wish there was a reasonable way to run OS X on non-Apple hardware. Just today I was looking at the current Mac lineup, and there's not a single setup that works for me. Everything comes with underpowered Intel graphics, unless you pay the ridiculous price for a top-of-the-line MacBook Pro. Oh, if only I could have a Surface Pro 3 running OS X... I could live with the Intel graphics if it had Surface-style portabili…

You could hackintosh. It's not that difficult, though that statement isn't true on some hardware configurations. Also, how is Intel underpowered? Seems perfectly adequate for me.

If you're in the market for a new desktop, I couldn't agree more with the suggestion of a hackint0sh. After fiddling with difficult laptop installs ~2006, I seized the opportunity to jump back in last Black Friday and have been working on a remarkably stable/powerful desktop at a fraction of a Mac Pro cost thanks to the resources/community over at http://www.tonymacx86.com . With their monthly buying guides (recommending compatible, proven hardware) and their installation tool, it was an incredibly easy process. (Personally, triple booting with Linux for coding fun, Windows for games, and Mac for the majority is great).

The one thing you give up, of course, is the guarantee of future compatibility. That said, there is some security in hardware working in 10.9, likely working with 10.10+ (or w/e Yosemite is) just as old Mac's working with future OSX versions, with the additional ability to easily swap/upgrade components.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by jakejake »

josteink wrote: post #12
Alupis wrote: post #6

You do know this violates the EULA for OSX? No OSX version allows for virtualizing it as a guest VM. (just pointing it out)

Honest question: has anyone ever cared for a EULA on hn except for bickering about getting Apple's poorly compatible consumer-os to run on regular consumer hardware? I can't think if a single case.

To be honest, I don't think it is a huge issue for personal use. But when you're running a businesses then it becomes important to pay attention to software licenses. If you intend to get big enough to where you'll be audited for investment or sale, you wouldn't want to have your technology relying on improperly licensed software products.

That being said, I'm among the people who would love to run virtualized OSX.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by [deleted] »

sosborn wrote: post #50
Alupis wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you must buy special hardware just to compile code, well... that's not normal for any other eco-system's developers. Nor is having to pay for the privilege of being a developer... nor pay for dev tools, etc.

You don't have to pay for dev tools (Xcode is free). You only have to pay if you want to distribute through the App Store or, for iOS, test on a device.

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Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by segmondy »

raverbashing wrote: post #46

Pro-tip: don't bother upgrading to Mavericks, Mountain Lion is better and lighter (even with the memory compression thing), don't upgrade unless you really need to use something specific in Mavericks

tell that to everyone who wants to play with swift.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by IBM »

raverbashing wrote: post #46

Pro-tip: don't bother upgrading to Mavericks, Mountain Lion is better and lighter (even with the memory compression thing), don't upgrade unless you really need to use something specific in Mavericks

Are you kidding? The extra battery life alone is worth it.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by sdrothrock »

lvillani wrote: post #42
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could hackintosh. It's not that difficult, though that statement isn't true on some hardware configurations. Also, how is Intel underpowered? Seems perfectly adequate for me.

In my experience, trying to install OS X on a laptop is an exercise in frustration. I did it with Snow Leopard on a Dell Inspiron-1525, almost identical to a polycarbonate white MacBook of that time and one of the easiest machines to tinker with. I read elsewhere that desktop computers are much easier to work with, but the OP is explicitly talking about portability and, in that case, it is just better to shell out th…

I did it in about an hour or two, with most of the time being spent making the USB drive or actually installing. No problems.

The catch is that I specifically found known-good laptops and then went and bought one. Ditto for the wifi card.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by gcb0 »

pavlov wrote: post #22

I wish there was a reasonable way to run OS X on non-Apple hardware. Just today I was looking at the current Mac lineup, and there's not a single setup that works for me. Everything comes with underpowered Intel graphics, unless you pay the ridiculous price for a top-of-the-line MacBook Pro. Oh, if only I could have a Surface Pro 3 running OS X... I could live with the Intel graphics if it had Surface-style portabili…

There is. plenty. but they are all a big no-no because it is a huge legal issue. Apple is very aggressive on that. So we have a few mac pros in a basement and access them via vnc (not the OSX native garbage) and run our tests there. It is retarded and feel like we are back in the 90s. ridiculous.

Also, why would you want OSX on a surface? it is silly. OSX thrives on little tiny buttons. it is hell to use even with a mouse (impossible to live with OSX without keyboard shortcuts) i can't imagine anyone wanting that on a touch device.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by gcb0 »

josteink wrote: post #12
Alupis wrote: post #6

You do know this violates the EULA for OSX? No OSX version allows for virtualizing it as a guest VM. (just pointing it out)

Honest question: has anyone ever cared for a EULA on hn except for bickering about getting Apple's poorly compatible consumer-os to run on regular consumer hardware? I can't think if a single case.

It is not an EULA for that case. they've taken companies out in silicon valley with other claims. But that was during Jobs times. And I doubt he needed anything legal to go after anybody.

Re: Running OS X Mavericks under QEMU with KVM

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Post by Gracana »

Alupis wrote: post #45
Gracana wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, not really. It is a popular argument though.

if you must buy special hardware just to compile code, well... that's not normal for any other eco-system's developers. Nor is having to pay for the privilege of being a developer... nor pay for dev tools, etc.

But I already own a mac, and it's fantastic hardware that I can do development for anything on, and the dev tools for OS X are free.
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