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Gittip, Year Two

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Re: Gittip, Year Two

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rhizome wrote: post #158
ta140604 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe he was referring to the top two receivers, Shanley [1] and Ashe[2]. These two are a part of the group of very aggressive feminists; there's no official 'group' to speak of (AFAIK), just a network of people supporting each other. Just to give a few names - Alex Gaynor (member of PSF board), Jacob Kaplan-Moss (yep, Django ex-BDFL), Coda Hale (HN/codahale, see his last messages here on HN [3], they're just abo…

Pointing out problems is actually a very important part of any solution. You don't lambaste QA people because they don't actually fix bugs.

Agreed. The problem is, they exaggerate and twist the truth, spread hate, unnecessarily antagonizing people, and actively push away those who try to reach out to them trying to do something.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by slumber »

pekk wrote: post #12

Gittip is a nice idea. But sadly, it has become a place for certain people to receive hefty monthly paychecks from anonymous patrons in exchange for incredibly aggressive and toxic trolling. Despite original intentions, this is not making an ecosystem of love and gratitude. So if its creator isn't even making money from it, it's probably better if it goes to sleep.

oh for sure man

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by ta140604 »

maco wrote: post #159
j46a1 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prosecutors are very aggressive. Declining to charge means severe lack of evidence. Basically she's a liar.

Since more recently published court documents have shown this to be a sexual assault / rape and domestic violence arrest, some statistics are in order. Particularly relevant is the fact that only 14-18% of sexual assault cases are prosecuted, or 37% for rape alone. http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTen/07_Rape_Prosecution.pd... Given that, it would actually be highly unusual if he DID go to trial.

> Since more recently published court documents have shown this to be a rape and domestic violence arrest

Wanted to ask you for a link, went on and found one myself:

http://ia701204.us.archive.org/19/items/gov.uscourts.ord.115...

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by maco »

iodfgj wrote: post #96

I think gittip had the potential to become something great and yea, sure, you've had a substantial increase in traffic since last year but an increase in traffic does not mean an increase in quality. I've been looking over at gittip for a while now and saw it was doing good things for good open source developers but your homepage shows the problem. The top 2 money recipients are 2 feminists which have never seen a li…

> The top 2 money recipients are 2 feminists which have never seen a line of code in their lives (one of them doesn't even have a github account!).

Ashe and Shanley? Ashe is a programmer, and Shanley was working as a programmer until she founded a media startup.

I do find the hangup people have on GitHub in particular weird, though. I have very little code on public GitHub repositories. Why? KDE, GNOME, and Ubuntu all have their own code hosting. I spent years working almost exclusively on projects that were large enough to have their own server farm. And then, of course, there's Sourceforge.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by joeyh »

This reminds me that I have a small amount of tips on gittip. However, I can only withdraw it by adding a bank account. Security concerns make this not appealing, at least not at the current level of funds. The cost/benefit is not there for me.

And so I've not yet really made money on gittip, which doesn't give me much incentive to promote it. (Beyond thinking the open company idea is pretty cool. But that also means I value their time, so I'm not seeing the cost/benefit on emailing them for a manual bitcoin withdrawal, either..)

On the other hand, flattr at least lets me withdraw money using paypal.. Or they have so far. They seem to be possibly moving to european bank account only, which will kill it for me.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by PaulHoule »

j46a1 wrote: post #138
PaulHoule wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think more seriously https://www.gittip.com/noirin/ has stuff on her profile that directly deprecates her husband. I don't anything about this case, but I'd say in general it makes me uncomfortable that somebody is bringing up a personal conflict on a platform like this.

I'm glad that others are voicing their dissent. Gittip has went from an idea of giving open source developers a way to supplement their income via time spent writing software. Instead, it's been hijacked by toxic social justice warriors. One is even for someone supporting their legal issues (unrelated in any way whatsoever to tech). I'd love to see a statement by someone at Gittip responding to this.

I'm pretty amazed I got at least three downvotes for what I think is a pretty mild observation.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by PaulHoule »

ivanca wrote: post #23

Ok, you guys need to make some changes, and I would recommend: - Allow monthly payments, instead of only weekly: most people receive money monthly so their economy math is based on monthly periods. - The company giving the biggest amount of money is giving $1095... you should try to involve Mozilla and other big non-profits to donate, basically because giving monthly money to open-source (non-employees) devs is one o…

$1095 a week is over $50K a week, that's a substantial amount of money over a year.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by PaulHoule »

chroma wrote: post #10

Let me preface this by saying: I want Gittip to succeed. I really want them to succeed. I would love to be able to spend my time getting paid by a community to develop open source software. However... those growth curves look linear, if not sigmoid. More importantly: >The Gittip team receives $20,339 per year (averaging the past ten weeks). There are 39 people splitting that money. $500 per person per year? That's no…

A lot of adjunct faculty do the same kind of stuff Ashe Dryden does and they get paid about the same with less security and awful working condition so I think she is doing OK

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by greatbigtable »

joeyh wrote: post #165

This reminds me that I have a small amount of tips on gittip. However, I can only withdraw it by adding a bank account. Security concerns make this not appealing, at least not at the current level of funds. The cost/benefit is not there for me. And so I've not yet really made money on gittip, which doesn't give me much incentive to promote it. (Beyond thinking the open company idea is pretty cool. But that also means…

Add Paypal withdraw support. People don't like having to spread their account information all over the place. Leverage what they already have access to in their lives; note the proliferation of Twitter and Facebook logins all over the web.

Re: Gittip, Year Two

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Post by calibraxis »

whit537 wrote: post #122
joaren wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never liked Gittip because of how it advertises its top earners and givers... it stops being about rewarding good work and starts to become a game of who can score the most validation points and use them for political gain. Yelling on Twitter and demonizing men for existing is not "promoting empathy and equality". Begging for legal money for your civil lawsuit is not "sustainable crowd funding" (hint: what is she b…

Thanks for the feedback! I've added a +1 w/ your comment re: the leaderboards to https://github.com/gittip/www.gittip.com/issues/1074 .

God, it disgusts me to put my money through your system. (Due to either your incompetence or malice towards Gittip's top earners.) Can't wait when a decent alternative to you pops up.

But thanks for reminding me that I neglected to end my private Github account!

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