OS X Yosemite • Hacker News Board

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by eyko » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:06 AM UTC

aroman wrote: post #113

eurleif wrote: post #80

Which parts of the front window in this screenshot[0] are draggable? Maybe this is just me, but I don't like how the titlebar and window contents are visually merged. [0] https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/images/overview_design_her...

All of them — everywhere that isn't another control. Apple stole this design wholesale from GTK[1], but I think it's a superior paradigm anyway, so I don't really mind. [1] https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.10/GtkHeaderBar.html

It's one of the design decisions in Gnome 3 that I don't dislike. Happy to see Apple adopt it. I always thought the combination of the Menu bar in OSX (top of screen) with GtkHeaderBar would save a lot of screen real estate... and seeing it in action is nice :)

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by iSnow » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:22 AM UTC

aroman wrote: post #113

eurleif wrote: post #80

Which parts of the front window in this screenshot[0] are draggable? Maybe this is just me, but I don't like how the titlebar and window contents are visually merged. [0] https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/images/overview_design_her...

All of them — everywhere that isn't another control. Apple stole this design wholesale from GTK[1], but I think it's a superior paradigm anyway, so I don't really mind. [1] https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.10/GtkHeaderBar.html

I think this is just reverting back to the way it was in MacOS 8 where a window could be dragged by the frame or the header bar - the only places where the chrome was exposed.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by ssivark » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:36 AM UTC

Wait... is it just me, or do the apps and window designs look very much like Gnome3 (circa 3.12)???

Compare pictures: 1. https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/apps/ 2. https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/ (Web, Chat, Mail, etc.)

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by gnaffle » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:36 AM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #228

lucian1900 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

If you Mac loses power and doesn't get to do a normal shutdown, you're eventually going to get file system errors that you can only fix by booting from a recovery disk. I've had this happen numerous times due to a broken battery on my laptop. If you've never ever run a disk repair on your Mac, do one and you might be surprised. You should expect more from a filesystem in 2014.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by iSnow » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:38 AM UTC

syncsynchalt wrote: post #95

buckbova wrote: post #14

> Apple has done away with the faux-3D shelf look here and has put the icons on a simple translucent background instead. I like the faux 3d dock . . . it'd be nice if this was configurable.

There was a "defaults" option for a flat dock in 10.7 and 10.8... one wonders why they removed it for 10.9, only to change the default back to flat in 10.10.

I guess first the Forstall influence giving us ugly 3D everywhere and now Ive's hand.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by 300 » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:42 AM UTC

Again, I came to the same conclusion like many times before. Apple does have the best hardware (talking about notebooks), but that's where the story ends.

I found a combination of MacBook Pro with Linux, as the only good use of Apple hardware.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by iSnow » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:50 AM UTC

ssivark wrote: post #233

Wait... is it just me, or do the apps and window designs look very much like Gnome3 (circa 3.12)??? Compare pictures: 1. https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/apps/ 2. https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/ (Web, Chat, Mail, etc.)

I dunno, I think this refers back to http://arstechnica.com/apple/2002/09/macosx-10-2/10/#brushed... minus the texture.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by X-Istence » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:51 AM UTC

crymer11 wrote: post #197

Hopefully they've spent some time on Messages; it's by far the buggiest app of theirs I've used in quite some time.

There are a lot of changes in Messages, for one, it will also be able to send/receive SMS's if you have an iPhone to pair it with.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by X-Istence » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 9:53 AM UTC

dev1n wrote: post #64

If possible, could someone from the Apple community please tell me if Yosemite will be faster / lighter than snow leopard? I don't want an OS that requires 8 gigs of ram to run "fast" like Mavericks requires.

I have Mavericks running on an older MBP (2007) and it runs faster than any of it's predecessors. Memory compression feature really helps a lot with that too!

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by crag » Tue, Jun 03, 2014, 10:00 AM UTC

I'd be happy if they fixed Mail's connection to Exchange (drops randomly - a know issue), or the terribly slow SMB - mounting Windows drives is just a nightmare. There is a fix, more like a hack really, forcing the OS to use an earlier version of SMB.

Fix those two and I'm there.