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Post by justincormack »

AaronFriel wrote: post #147

I am deeply disappointed by the "development" of OS X. It seems that Apple has long ago gutted their x86 OS group due to dwindling profits and lack of real competition. There are a handful of reasons people buy a Mac, and I would largely put them into three groups: * Students looking for a stable and/or sexy device for their university. * Artists using applications that don't exist on other platforms (or that priorit…

I assumed a few years ago that they would move to mainstream FreeBSD, but it has never happened. It would be the easiest thing to migrate to, and is way ahead of OSX.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by johnchristopher »

demallien wrote: post #161
Angostura wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mavericks introduced a lot of tangible under the hood improvements that perhaps you missed, Ars did a thorough review, perhaps start with how the OS was changed to improve energy consumption: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/12/#energy-sa...

Yes, linux geeks can school Apple on systems engineering when they can deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get. As for this latest release, what, adding a new systems programming language and a whole new graphics API isn't enough? At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics…

> At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics card that the system can't figure out how to use! And the wifi Just Works(tm), unlike the Ubuntu laptop that I had before that.

For what it's worth my debian wheezy laptop detects second monitor just fine (and I am using awesome-wm) while my 2007 iMac randomly lose internet though it's connected to my routeur via wifi. So... data points.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by coob »

wting wrote: post #205
demallien wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, linux geeks can school Apple on systems engineering when they can deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get. As for this latest release, what, adding a new systems programming language and a whole new graphics API isn't enough? At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics…

My 15" rMBP running Mavericks randomly reboots on occasion, and to this day still requires me to manually disable / enable WiFi almost every time I open the lid. Meanwhile Homebrew is a poor substitute for aptitude and PPAs, multi-monitor support is relatively poor (xmonad excels here), and the Apple keyboard is missing a bunch of keys I use on a regular basis.

There's a fix for the Wifi issue - trashing your bluetooth prefs. Solved it for me: http://www.imore.com/how-fix-mavericks-wi-fi-zapping-bluetoo...

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Post by lisnake »

joeblau wrote: post #163

How do you enable dark mode? I'm on 10.10 and I can't find it anywhere.

I don't know about the dark mode, but can you answer, is 10.10 stable enough? I'd like to try it on my home system

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by npinguy »

lucian1900 wrote: post #220
rayiner wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snow Leopard was the last major kernel guts release, and it wasn't that long ago. OS X is a mature, client oriented OS. They add new API's, etc, and make lots of little improgements continuously, but what more is there to do? I haven't felt the urge to check out the release notes for a Linux kernel release in years. Wake me up when they get VM hooks to speed up GC or something. The new developments just aren't that r…

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

While I agree, I think Apple's core demographics does not want to think about the file system. There are enough abstractions created by the apps to the point that users don't think about where their files are at all.

It's not how I want to operate either, but that's the direction Apple has been heading to for a long time

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by jamra »

dfc wrote: post #11

> With this new design, OS X...now looks a bit more like iOS 7, but > there is still quite a bit of depth. Indeed, more than flat, the > design almost seems to focus more on translucency than anything else. The above is an incomprehensible collection of words to me. I am not sure if this is because of my lack of an intimate connection to Apple products, terrible writing or some combination of the two.

I'm running Yosemite now. The same feel you get from iOS 7 UI is prevalent in the OS. They flattened the window headers. They flattened the toolbar on the bottom. They flattened the status bar on top. It makes for more of a content-focused approach.

The translucency they speak of is in regards to the side menus in apps. In order to give a dynamic feel to the UI, they added some translucency like they have in some iOS 7 apps.

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Post by allan_ »

As seen on a the screenshot for the new notification center calendar, the Life of an Apple user begins at 10:00 with a crossfit session. After that it is not that you go to work then. Relaxing talk with Anne on the phone, maybe talking a little business on the side, but not to rough. After Lunch you do not start to work either. Just let out all those wise thoughts gathered while living your apple lifestyle in a fresh stream, like you do.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

lucian1900 wrote: post #220
rayiner wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snow Leopard was the last major kernel guts release, and it wasn't that long ago. OS X is a mature, client oriented OS. They add new API's, etc, and make lots of little improgements continuously, but what more is there to do? I haven't felt the urge to check out the release notes for a Linux kernel release in years. Wake me up when they get VM hooks to speed up GC or something. The new developments just aren't that r…

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

Aside from:

- silly mixed-case directories with spaces

- case-insensitive filenames

what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

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Post by 3rd3 »

aroman wrote: post #113
eurleif wrote: post #80

Which parts of the front window in this screenshot[0] are draggable? Maybe this is just me, but I don't like how the titlebar and window contents are visually merged. [0] https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/images/overview_design_her...

All of them — everywhere that isn't another control. Apple stole this design wholesale from GTK[1], but I think it's a superior paradigm anyway, so I don't really mind. [1] https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.10/GtkHeaderBar.html

Being able to move a window wherever you click is actually pretty old (the oldest example I know of is the Aqua brushed metal type of windows in OSX 10.3 Panther, I believe). Compact window headers don’t seem new either. For example iTunes has this since 2010 (version 10).

[1] https://i.imgur.com/pCv8lV4.png

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