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OS X Yosemite
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Re: OS X Yosemite
#92Ironic that the official apple page for Yosemite shows it running a macbook air, which hasn't seen a cosmetic or design update in ... 6 years ? 2009 was when they removed the physical mouse button...
And what would you like to change in MacBook Air in terms of design? The only thing I can think of are very minor, evolutionary changes, but other than that, this machine is perfect (or very close to it) for what it stands for - very portable computer. On the other hand, there's plenty to do around the OS X.
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#93I don't care about flat or transparent. I just hope they effing fix windowing and multi-monitor support. ⌘+` is ridiculously buggy.
How is ⌘` buggy?
I don't know which of the two are "buggy", but command-tab and command-tidle have different behaviors:
command-tab will let you toggle back and forth between last two apps - sort of a classic alt-tab behavior from Windows and various UNIX WMs.
command-tilde goes through your windows in a stack, in one direction, and you have to modify it with shift to go a different way. Further, if you destroy a window after command-tilde to get to it, suddenly the direction gets reversed, and you will then command-tilde back the other direction.
So ... one of these is "wrong". I'll leave it to you to decide which. From my perspective, the ability to rapidly switch back and forth between two windows of the same application is valuable, and I hate having to modify it with shift as I go back and forth...
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#94HandOff is the kind of thing I'm surprised took so long. Honestly, I was expecting MS to get something like it first. After all, your Windows Phone already runs Windows, right?
I'm especially shocked this has taken so long because the technology is ancient:
Windows has had a "Use this computer as a Bluetooth Headset" option buried in the Bluetooth preferences for a long time now.
The Address Book in Mac OS 10.0 and 10.1 would also let you send and receive SMSes with compatible phones (no joke):
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/11/27/sms.html
And Linux has had a few projects (like nohands) which do the same thing.
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#95> Apple has done away with the faux-3D shelf look here and has put the icons on a simple translucent background instead. I like the faux 3d dock . . . it'd be nice if this was configurable.
There was a "defaults" option for a flat dock in 10.7 and 10.8... one wonders why they removed it for 10.9, only to change the default back to flat in 10.10.
Re: OS X Yosemite
#96Which parts of the front window in this screenshot[0] are draggable? Maybe this is just me, but I don't like how the titlebar and window contents are visually merged. [0] https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/images/overview_design_her...
That bothers me a bit too. Maybe because I still can't tell what bit of an IOS7 app is button and what isn't (even with the "accessibility" fix they're not all shown properly).
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use 2+ monitors and 2+ desktops ('Spaces' or whatever they're called). When you're expecting to go from app A to app B, instead you're taken to app C. Or, you're taken to an unexpected window of App B on a different desktop. Also, the Z-ordering of windows seems really odd. If you have multiple windows open from two apps, and you ⌘+` between them, sometimes all of App A windows are brought to the front and App B wind…
I agree, the full-screen and multi-monitor workflow stuff in OS X has been improving slightly, but it's still quite a mess. Apple seems to go out of their way to make it not work well.
That's very generous. I think a more correct response would be that the multi-monitor workflow in OSX is shockingly bad, so much so that we have to question whether anyone at apple uses 3 or more monitors as their work environment at all.
Is there some company edict, or cultural pressure that discourages it ? I don't see how any of these issues could have survived early-alpha (of Lion, and ML, and Mav., etc.)
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#98I'm really looking forward to this. Unlike iOS7, the flatter design here doesn't make me feel like a bunch of amateur artists got a hold of a free copy of Adobe Illustrator. I actually like the new look quite a bit. Now, to pray that they've made some under the hood progress on multi-monitor support. Moving work back and forth from desktop to mobile also sounds really amazing. I get a hint of it when working with gma…
There were multi-monitor updates in Mavericks - fixed most of my issues. What's still an issue for you?
It's "better" in so much as I can full screen two things now instead of looking at a useless monitor full of fake fabric.
I also have two spaces and things don't really quite work right. I'm not quite sure how to make it work better, but it almost never does what I mean right now.
Re: OS X Yosemite
#99Ironic that the official apple page for Yosemite shows it running a macbook air, which hasn't seen a cosmetic or design update in ... 6 years ? 2009 was when they removed the physical mouse button...
And what would you like to change in MacBook Air in terms of design? The only thing I can think of are very minor, evolutionary changes, but other than that, this machine is perfect (or very close to it) for what it stands for - very portable computer. On the other hand, there's plenty to do around the OS X.
Retina screen. The WWDC announcement that we've waited for for three consecutive iterations (two years).
Two years ago was overly optimistic. Last year was exasperating. This year is just pathetic.
So yeah, not a design change, I guess, just retina griping.
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#100I wonder how legacy apps will look? I'm assuming it will work the same was as iOS 6 apps do on iOS 7, where they just run the same as they did before and look like older apps. That's going to be a confusing transition. Although it might shame app developers into updating their apps.
This isn't the first time OS X has changed the looks of title bars[1]. Typically the transition is eased a lot by a) Cocoa works it out for you and b) an active developer community that is provided with early access. So by the time the OS is released to the general public, most apps have already been adapted.
[1] http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/macosx...
