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I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
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#42I quit my job almost a year ago and never worked a day since, and I never will anymore, at least in the traditional sense. I went from middle class to moneyless and I could't be happier with my life, which involves travelling all over the world, meeting people, visiting friends and partying a lot. I have never felt more free. One day I will settle down somewhere, have kids and teach them how to live free like I did,…
What are you going to do once you settle down somewhere and have kids? I imagine kids are expensive, as is having a home and so on -- probably much more expensive than the life you're living now. Do you plan to get a job at that point? Start a business? Live in the slums or something?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I need money, I could basically earn money by playing music or whatever on the street, or DJ-ing in bars/clubs, as this is my passion. I travel by hitch hiking, there are communities that live completely without money, either by being self-sustainable growing their own food and trading/bartering with locals, or by dumpster diving at super markets or asking i.e. bakeries if they have leftovers they would otherwise…
So what brings you to hackernews?
I've worked for 14 years in IT, but always had this dream to go travel the world and see as much as I can. 25 days off a year or a sabbatical year weren't enough time to realize this.
I also love to explore different ways of life, finding ways within the current system to survive and live a fulfilling life. A lot can be built from stuff that others throw away, an example on HN today is the Poor Man's 3D-printer.
Based on all the experiences I go through now, I eventually want to set up my own community, in a way that it is scalable and not dependent on other systems, so it can provide a working alternative for people who suffer from stress due to unfulfilling jobs and feeling stuck in the life they're living. I see a lot of people fighting capitalism for example, or disagreeing with their government, but without an alternative, they still feel they are dependent on these systems and therefore are not willing to bite the hand that feeds them.
It's in hackerspaces and the hacker scene where I see a new world being built :)
Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#44Let this be a lesson for everyone... If submitting to HN, pick a static cached page of the content to serve or use varnish or something. ;)
Plan your caches carefully and start from the CMS side.
Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#45Eerily similar to my current life. I quit 11 days ago, spent a week with my family, and now working on some personal projects. Good luck!
Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#46I quit my job almost a year ago and never worked a day since, and I never will anymore, at least in the traditional sense. I went from middle class to moneyless and I could't be happier with my life, which involves travelling all over the world, meeting people, visiting friends and partying a lot. I have never felt more free. One day I will settle down somewhere, have kids and teach them how to live free like I did,…
That's interesting. It's not something I think I'd want to do but that's probably because we're just different people with different passions and goals (I honestly don't care much for travel anyways -- though I wouldn't mind doing it a bit once I get a lifestyle business and some recurring revenue!). What are you going to do once you settle down somewhere and have kids? I imagine kids are expensive, as is having a ho…
Some people earn money and are happy to provide for electricity. Also, guests are encouraged, but not obligated, to leave a donation if they visit the property for a longer time. It's in the middle of the woods, and recently we placed a second wind mill. For warmth and cooking we use the wood that the forest provides in abundance (this all in harmony with nature, only dead trees are used and also enough wood is left to rot to provide 'food' for the forest). Some people use gas bottles.
I have come to see that the concept of money is so deeply engraved (is that the right term?) in our minds, that it's almost impossible to think of the possibility to do without. With every concept that is thought of, money seems to be a mandatory part in the equation. There is a whole world out there where money takes no part in at all. And where even having a rich and healthy life is possible.
Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#47I quit my job almost a year ago and never worked a day since, and I never will anymore, at least in the traditional sense. I went from middle class to moneyless and I could't be happier with my life, which involves travelling all over the world, meeting people, visiting friends and partying a lot. I have never felt more free. One day I will settle down somewhere, have kids and teach them how to live free like I did,…
That's interesting. It's not something I think I'd want to do but that's probably because we're just different people with different passions and goals (I honestly don't care much for travel anyways -- though I wouldn't mind doing it a bit once I get a lifestyle business and some recurring revenue!). What are you going to do once you settle down somewhere and have kids? I imagine kids are expensive, as is having a ho…
Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#48I quit my job almost a year ago and never worked a day since, and I never will anymore, at least in the traditional sense. I went from middle class to moneyless and I could't be happier with my life, which involves travelling all over the world, meeting people, visiting friends and partying a lot. I have never felt more free. One day I will settle down somewhere, have kids and teach them how to live free like I did,…
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Re: I quit my job. Today is Day #2.
#49* When I left the working world, I had no savings. Long story, but I was so far in debt due to paying business expenses with personal credit cards, saving wasn’t on my radar. Won’t get into details, but ya, don’t do that (don’t mortgage your future). Having no savings is common, but it’s only okay if you have some sort of income lined up.
* The first year I earned income however I could with repair experience I had gained at my last job. Most of that entailed flipping broken Macs through eBay, which is getting marginal but if you need quick cash you can buy one online, replace the HDD or whatever, and sell it on Craigslist. Don’t expect to average more than about $50-100 per day though, and probably less than that unless you can pipeline multiple repairs at once. I also did a little troubleshooting and picked up $100 here and there, which I no longer do, due to the liability of being on call.
* The second year I went to the school of hard knocks, picking up a degree in online contracting. I started with freelancer.com, taking $100 gigs a couple times a week. Then I moved to elance.com and got a few fixed-rate contracts in the $500-1200 range. Unfortunately I underestimated and several 2 week contracts turned into 6 weeks. Two overseas clients never paid (one at no fault to elance - I did too much without asking for payment, and one I scouted on my own) which set me back at least $2000 and a couple months of my life.
* Just when I was about to hit my breaking point, an old friend called me up and asked if I would come interview with his employer. That turned into the 6 month contract at a company that provides mainframe services, but was dabbling with more of a startup business model. They offered me my hourly consulting rate on a full time schedule and I was able to save again.
* In the year since, I’ve been focussing on contracts in the $1500+ range, which is probably the minimum for rural America. It makes ends meet but I will be owing taxes soon on money that I made at the 6 month contract, because the contract was split across a year boundary. I managed the first year just fine but ate into my savings the second year. So be sure to set aside a third of your income for taxes.
On the face of it, this is all irrational behavior and I’m told daily that I should just go get a job. That’s all fine and good, and to be honest, showing up somewhere and doing time each day in exchange for currency can be less stressful than worrying about where next month’s mortgage payment will come from. But, I find that I can’t generate more than about 6 hours of concentration each day sustainably. So the additional 2 hours that jobs extract are to ensure that nothing is left for pet projects. They have more to do with turnover than productivity.
I kind of look at it now in a meta way, like, if you take a step back from your life and picture where you are and where you’d like to be, does that depend on money? I mean for me, that’s a very serious question. I don’t care about money. I know I should, but it always seemed like a pretty inaccurate way of measuring one’s life, since the people who have a lot of it never seem to do anything good with it. I’ve decided to instead focus on having enough. If the forces align each day to give me enough food/water/shelter to continue, then I consider that a good day.
So I don’t know what else to call it than survival. And I’m doing it for just exactly the same reasons that survivalists do it, as refuge from “this”, whatever intangible kind of ominous matrix-like manifestation you want to call our culture. I don’t think I have to explain it to anyone here because you already get it. I’ve really been thinking a lot lately that if enough of us can get unplugged and survive long enough, that we might be able to make the real contributions to society that we know we are capable of.
My biggest problem now is that since I work for the client instead of a boss, I’m finding it hard to carve out enough time for my own projects. The world still wants dollars, and part of the reason that office life is so brutal is because that’s what it takes to stay afloat today. Contracting pays 2-4 times as much as a day job, but I find focussed concentration takes a toll on downtime as well. I have the inspiration to tinker but not the motivation. This is really starting to haunt me, more perhaps than scratching out a living. I keep wishing that there was some kind of reprieve, like if I could just get ahead of the curve long enough, that maybe naturally I would find time to invent stuff. The answer seems to be residual income, but the few times I’ve had it, it’s been snatched up by others and I developed a pavlovian aversion to investing in it. That’s probably my biggest regret, and so I would offer a word of warning that if you go the survival route, be sure to have something brewing in the background or else you will find yourself back where you started.
Sorry this got so long, I’ve never been a very good editor.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You must have some sort of income? How do you afford basics like food and lodging?
If I need money, I could basically earn money by playing music or whatever on the street, or DJ-ing in bars/clubs, as this is my passion. I travel by hitch hiking, there are communities that live completely without money, either by being self-sustainable growing their own food and trading/bartering with locals, or by dumpster diving at super markets or asking i.e. bakeries if they have leftovers they would otherwise…
I envy you. I try not to spend much money by walking or cycling, buying groceries at reduced prices before they're thrown out, buying used stuff when possible, and so on. But I don't know if I could make the jump to being virtually moneyless. One reason is having a partner; I imagine living such a lifestyle is easier when you're more independent and can move around easily.
Do you ever find yourself in situations where you don't have a place to stay for the night, or not enough money to pay for a meal?