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The Open-office Trap

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Re: The Open-office Trap

#71

Why stop at having an office merely "open"? Hot desking is the new thing - it's nothing to do with cost saving, it's all about "flexibility". Except that your organisation might also have a policy against working from home. There's no implicit message that you are simply a replaceable functional unit, not at all. You might even find there's no desk left when you arrive at work - who doesn't love the suspense of arriv…

"The dull roar of collaboration" is my favourite expression of the day.

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #26

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The once mandatory "visitors chair" in every workspace and most people had two or three. Folks younger than a certain age miss out knowing the social etiquette relating to visitors chairs, such as stacking "stuff" or coats on your visitor chair is anti-social and very strongly frowned upon. Also it was socially acceptable, standard even, to simply walk into someone's cube and sit down in their (visitor) chair and wai…

Precisely. And that's still the culture in some places (Microsoft being a good example). Generally many devs will establish a rapport with folks on their team and in other parts of the company to a degree where occasional visits won't translate into wondering what needs fixing ASAP. Also, if everyone has an office then you can schedule meetings with other folks in their office, or your office. As long as it's not mor…

WRT "Though if someone has their door closed they probably don't want to be disturbed." there was some cultural variation but every place I worked at, as opposed to heard about, it was a huge gossip worthy social faux pas to close an office door unless there was a private managerial activity going on in the office at that moment (yelled at, review, interview, etc). You closed the door at night or when unoccupied because you had $200K of hardware prototypes and protocol analyzers and laptops literally laying around unsecured. And it was a major social faux pas to open a closed door unless you were a resident of that room. Even if you were best friends you don't just walk in, any more than you'd dig thru their filing cabinet or wallet without them present.

90s office work reminded me a lot of dorm room life and culture. Dorm culture probably hasn't changed in the past couple decades, and having dorm rooms with doors hardly eliminates all social activity; if anything it encourages it and military basic training style barracks are not considered a requirement of socialization.

Re: The Open-office Trap

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Depends on the cubicles. They used to be 78" high, but low panel heights are much more popular now. 42" panels don't afford much privacy.

Because... drumroll please: low panels are cheaper!

The place I work at had just recently (a couple years ago) moved from an older office with 6 ft cubical walls, to an open office with the short cubical walls. You can see over the top of them when sitting down, but they also have a frosted glass piece (1 ft high) stuck on top to maintain privacy (but still let light through).

Big thing I notice -- in the old office, it was pretty noisy, as it was all too easy for people to think they had privacy when they were in a high-walled cubical. The new office is a bit quieter, as people tend to talk in hushed voices more, since they can see everyone around them that would otherwise hear them.

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #49

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Hot desking is the new thing I visited a place that was a giant room of ~100 people working. No one had their own computer, instead you just sat down and whatever computer was there and started working. The guy running this insanity said they re-image all the machines all time taking settings from one of the machines that has been in use. His theory was that over time everyones preferences would merge. It was interes…

At my university, 15 years ago, we had network profiles. So you would log to any machine in the university, your home directory would be your own. That worked with dual boot Windows and Linux, so you'd get the same files on either platform. The machines were pretty much stateless. When you booted a machine you could choose between Windows, Linux, or reset the whole machine. The third one was what you did when the mac…

We had this for meeting rooms at a previous job. It worked quite poorly, since it took a long time to pull in your profile. Meeting runners learned to get to the thirty-minute meeting ten minutes early so that there was some hope of being able to use the computer for part of the meeting. Also, the Windows profiles we were using didn't include applications, so there was the fun of each person who needed, say, Skype, or Chrome, downloading it onto each computer that they hadn't previously used it on.

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #49

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Hot desking is the new thing I visited a place that was a giant room of ~100 people working. No one had their own computer, instead you just sat down and whatever computer was there and started working. The guy running this insanity said they re-image all the machines all time taking settings from one of the machines that has been in use. His theory was that over time everyones preferences would merge. It was interes…

At my university, 15 years ago, we had network profiles. So you would log to any machine in the university, your home directory would be your own. That worked with dual boot Windows and Linux, so you'd get the same files on either platform. The machines were pretty much stateless. When you booted a machine you could choose between Windows, Linux, or reset the whole machine. The third one was what you did when the mac…

My university still does this, it works perfectly on the Linux computers. I'm not sure how well it works with Windows machines since I don't use them more than I have to, but you at least get access to your home directory.

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #14

What's funny is that I actually have no idea what a non-open office would look like. I've worked for 15 years and have never even walked in an office that wasn't open. How do you give each person an office without using like 5x the space as a cubicle farm? That's the real reason that companies like open offices - because they can jam a lot more people in the same space. Someone who is ok with a 6x6 cubicle would feel…

I'd be fine with a 6x6 office. I could tolerate a 6x6 cubicle. An open plan office would be a dealbreaker for me.

But if the cost of office space is an issue, much more efficient than an open plan office would be just letting people work from home.

Re: The Open-office Trap

#77
post #43

Open-offices are downright dangerous. We had an Indian colleague who had tuberculoses. After it was diagnosed, every employee had to get an examination. One colleague got infected. Worst of all, the management handled the matter rather unserious and kept jamming everyone in the same office (including the infected colleague!) Gladly, I worked remotely for that company.

Why is it relevant that he is Indian?

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #60

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At my university, 15 years ago, we had network profiles. So you would log to any machine in the university, your home directory would be your own. That worked with dual boot Windows and Linux, so you'd get the same files on either platform. The machines were pretty much stateless. When you booted a machine you could choose between Windows, Linux, or reset the whole machine. The third one was what you did when the mac…

That's not what this was. I was specifically told that over time their settings would all merge together.

Due to RSI I have my mouse set to the lowest possible sensitivity, I'd like to see my settings merge with his

Re: The Open-office Trap

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post #57

Interesting article. My favorite sentence is this though, "Open offices may seem better suited to younger workers, many of whom have been multitasking for the majority of their short careers." Despite what I want to believe and what I have been told (all companies only want to hire multitaskers!), multitasking is neither productive nor really possible. You can really only do one project at a time.

What they call "multi-tasking" is actually an inability to stay focused on one task due to a combination of procrastination and sheer boredom. So if you keep switching between writing a sales report, reading incoming email and conversing with your neighbor, congratulations, you may not be getting anything done, but you are multi-tasking!

Re: The Open-office Trap

#80
I work in such open office arrangement. The worse is when the two guys across your desk have their phones on a conference call on speaker phone and the echo of both come through as they speak, utterly distracting, I might as well just pack and go home.
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