I eat fat, and look, I am still alive!
(shaking my head)
The case for eating steak and cream
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Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#22To me the most amazing thing is that we still have "low fat" food around and that it is still labelled as healthy. Instead, the low carb food is either labelled "low carb" or "paleo", which are both names that remind this gym fixated people everybody laughs at. Then you have all the vegan/vegetarian crowd who laughs at who eats meat and steaks. It's a mess.
As a vegetarian, I don't laugh at people eating meat. In fact, when it comes to nutrition, eating (the right) meat is likely the most rational choice based on today's understanding. As a sidenote, I have looked into low-carb/keto diets and I've found that those are rather hard for vegetarians; reducing carb intake from some sources (rice, pasta) is easy, but even staple vegetarian foods rich in protein (tofu, lentils…
Keto is not meant for long-term use. You will have one miserable life if you could pull that off but i doubt you could even if u tried. It works really well for cutting that last bit of stubborn fat when u trying to show your six pack.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#23Most low fat foods aren't really that low fat, but only contain less fat. If you calculate the percent of energy coming from fat from such foods it's still large. And more importantly, those "low fat" foods are still factory derived high sodium low fiber foods, not natural foods, like fruits, legumes and whole grains which contain almost no fat. What people call low fat is really just not good enough. For a seriously…
My favorite resource on micronutrients and diet are the graphs in this article http://www.vegsource.com/harris/ten_categories.htm
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's as simple as calories in, calories out This is definitely true, if you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight. But this is really hard to enforce for many people. Without blatant calorie labels on everything you eat, it's really easy to go over and then assume that it must not be true.
> This is definitely true It is a strong argument and I know to many examples where this is just simply not the case. I myself have been eating all my life big portions of food couple times a day, mainly with meat and potatoes, sometimes with some salad though a lot of times without any. I'm not a big fan of sweets, but I do eat bread and some other stuff containing carbs, simply because it is almost impossible to av…
I've been 1.8m and 64kg since I stopped growing. I know I overeat most of the time. Where does the additional energy go? Why is it stored as fat in some people, not in others. There is more to health than simple calories in = calories out.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is definitely true It is a strong argument and I know to many examples where this is just simply not the case. I myself have been eating all my life big portions of food couple times a day, mainly with meat and potatoes, sometimes with some salad though a lot of times without any. I'm not a big fan of sweets, but I do eat bread and some other stuff containing carbs, simply because it is almost impossible to av…
I've been 1.8m and 64kg since I stopped growing. I know I overeat most of the time. Where does the additional energy go? Why is it stored as fat in some people, not in others. There is more to health than simple calories in = calories out.
Am I not questioning that argument in my comment?
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#26People make things more complicated than they are. Just eat more plants. Eat less super-easy-to-digest free-calorie foods, such as refined sugars (sucrose).
This includes simple starches such as you find in white bread, rice and pasta. They get converted into sucrose right away. It starts in your mouth (amylase enzyme in your saliva), just one simple molecular change and it's... glucose! That's why it tastes sweet if you keep on chewing a piece of white bread.
White flour products are tasty though! So consider them as more of a snack, like cake or potato chips, and less as part of your daily meal.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#27Most low fat foods aren't really that low fat, but only contain less fat. If you calculate the percent of energy coming from fat from such foods it's still large. And more importantly, those "low fat" foods are still factory derived high sodium low fiber foods, not natural foods, like fruits, legumes and whole grains which contain almost no fat. What people call low fat is really just not good enough. For a seriously…
> Whole foods like nuts, seeds and avocado's aren't low fat, but high fat, but can
We know that some people snack on these foods because they think the foods are healthy. Thus they take in several thousand extra calories that they don't need per day, on top of their regular meals.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#28Most low fat foods aren't really that low fat, but only contain less fat. If you calculate the percent of energy coming from fat from such foods it's still large. And more importantly, those "low fat" foods are still factory derived high sodium low fiber foods, not natural foods, like fruits, legumes and whole grains which contain almost no fat. What people call low fat is really just not good enough. For a seriously…
> Whole foods like nuts, seeds and avocado's aren't low fat, but high fat, but can We know that some people snack on these foods because they think the foods are healthy. Thus they take in several thousand extra calories that they don't need per day, on top of their regular meals.
Yes, that can be a problem. These high fat foods are best eaten not as a snack, but as part of a meal, like a nut based salad dressing.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#29Most low fat foods aren't really that low fat, but only contain less fat. If you calculate the percent of energy coming from fat from such foods it's still large. And more importantly, those "low fat" foods are still factory derived high sodium low fiber foods, not natural foods, like fruits, legumes and whole grains which contain almost no fat. What people call low fat is really just not good enough. For a seriously…
My favorite resource on micronutrients and diet are the graphs in this article http://www.vegsource.com/harris/ten_categories.htm
Google for ANDI score, which is also a measure for the micronutrient content per calorie.
Re: The case for eating steak and cream
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's as simple as calories in, calories out This is definitely true, if you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight. But this is really hard to enforce for many people. Without blatant calorie labels on everything you eat, it's really easy to go over and then assume that it must not be true.
> This is definitely true It is a strong argument and I know to many examples where this is just simply not the case. I myself have been eating all my life big portions of food couple times a day, mainly with meat and potatoes, sometimes with some salad though a lot of times without any. I'm not a big fan of sweets, but I do eat bread and some other stuff containing carbs, simply because it is almost impossible to av…
Unless you are done kind of magical machine, or perhaps have some kind of digestive problem which prevents you extracting energy from food, then you are obviously burning the calories you consume.
Even given a relatively sedentary lifestyle, you probably require around 2500 calories a day to maintain your weight. That's actually quite a lot - it's perfectly possible that you don't consume more than that with a couple of big meat-and-potatoes meals every day.
Things like alcohol, soda and snack can add huge calorie counts, and I suspect that in many people these are the factors that are causing weight gain. Have you ever actually added up your calorie intake for a day? It might be lower than you think.