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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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The first OS and computer that is fully accessible out of the box. http://www.apple.com/macosx/universal-access/

I can't believe it has been considered important enough to be one of the major features of Snow Leopard, I am so happy for the blind and visually impaired. They did it with the new iPhone the first commercialized accessible touchscreen and they are doing it again with the new Mac OS. Apple is the most innovative tech company there is no doubt about it.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Insanity. Before Leopard, Spotlight was a debacle. After Leopard, it just works. Also: isn't there a whole lot of software you can't install now because Tiger doesn't have Core Animation and isn't LP64? I also wouldn't trust Tiger security on an external network.

Every security update Apple ships for Leopard it also ships for Tiger. And I preferred spotlight in 10.4. In fact, 10.4 was all around a much better OS than 10.5, which was the first update to Mac OS X that felt like a step backwards. Of course, I'll be updating to 10.6 as soon as I can get my hands on it. If nothing else, the promise of a 10.5 that doesn't suck is worth it. To be fair, 10.5 is much better now then w…

How was it a step backwards? Mind you, I was a bit late to the party - I started on 10.5.2 - but everything's much more polished than it was in Tiger, both graphically and performance-wise.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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You might want to hold off a little while before upgrading, at least until 10.6.1. I upgraded my laptop 3 days ago and since then I've had at least 5 Mail.app crashes, finder a couple of times, and one terminal crash. I did an upgrade install, maybe a clean one is better, but I'm pretty surprised at the instability. Also, if you use Macports, that's not up to speed yet so you'll be doing a lot of fiddling around to g…

How'd you get 10.6? Were they releasing developer copies?

Sure, but only high level developers got them. However, I was able to learn the final build number from a friend, then I just downloaded it off BT.

I have a copy on order but couldn't wait. Call it time-shifting.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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I am quite surprised no other operating system has something like GCD. Is that MarketingSpeak or is it really something new?

.NET has had runtime-wide thread pools since its inception. Unless there's something fundamental about GCD that I'm missing, that puts Windows at least 7 years ahead of OSX on this count.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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I am quite surprised no other operating system has something like GCD. Is that MarketingSpeak or is it really something new?

.NET has had runtime-wide thread pools since its inception. Unless there's something fundamental about GCD that I'm missing, that puts Windows at least 7 years ahead of OSX on this count.

Well... Java had them (in almost every OS it ran on) since day 1 too. That puts it a couple years ahead of .NET

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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.NET has had runtime-wide thread pools since its inception. Unless there's something fundamental about GCD that I'm missing, that puts Windows at least 7 years ahead of OSX on this count.

Well... Java had them (in almost every OS it ran on) since day 1 too. That puts it a couple years ahead of .NET

Sure. I'm not trying to say that Windows was ahead of its time, but rather that Apple seems to be making a big deal out of a feature I'm kind of shocked they didn't already have.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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What about those stuck on Tiger (my gf)? Buy Leopard and Snow Leopard update or buy a full version?

I'm still on Tiger and I'm probably not going to upgrade. I have a first-gen "lapburner" MBP which works just fine. Leopard didn't really offer anything ground breaking and it doesn't appear Snow Leopard will either. And I figure anything ground-breaking will require newer hardware, so I guess I'll stay on Tiger until the machine stops working. Which coincidentally is also why XP users don't upgrade either.

The difference is that Mac OS X tends to get faster with newer versions. Apparently Snow Leopard even takes up less disk space. Not the case with newer versions of Windows.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Well... Java had them (in almost every OS it ran on) since day 1 too. That puts it a couple years ahead of .NET

Sure. I'm not trying to say that Windows was ahead of its time, but rather that Apple seems to be making a big deal out of a feature I'm kind of shocked they didn't already have.

Same here. I am astonished no student added something like this to BSD in the late 80s ;-)

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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.NET has had runtime-wide thread pools since its inception. Unless there's something fundamental about GCD that I'm missing, that puts Windows at least 7 years ahead of OSX on this count.

Well... Java had them (in almost every OS it ran on) since day 1 too. That puts it a couple years ahead of .NET

I think the point of GCD is that the concept is being brought down to the C, C++, and Objective-C layers, through the introduction of "blocks"...

http://www.mikeash.com/?page=pyblog/friday-qa-2008-12-26.htm...

http://www.mikeash.com/?page=pyblog/friday-qa-2009-08-14-pra...

I agree there's too much marketing hype surrounding GCD, but neither the CLR nor the JVM can jump through that particular hoop.

Re: Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Now Available (Delivery on Aug. 28th)

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Even in marketting copy, Apple's design taste is unrivaled:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

I mean seriously, how many levels of tabs are too many?

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/whats-ne...

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